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Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:41 am
by Simple Man
I just got this one in, and it is a good quality, perfect walk and talk, not too hard, not too soft. I bought it as a Boker, and that is what the seller bought it as, but I'm not sure. It almost has the shape of the Keen Kutter outline, but I just cant tell for sure. Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:19 am
by 0078
Nice looking knife, maybe a 9695 what's the closed length?

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:25 am
by Simple Man
Just barely a shade under 3 1/2"

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:49 am
by danno50
I really like that one, great bone. Does look a bit like the ends of the bar on the Keen Kutter stamp. The bone does look quite a bit like the bone on a couple of older Keen Kutters I have.
Dan

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:31 am
by 0078
Check out this pic, maybe it is a keen kutter. I have a few well made knives that I have no ideal who made them.

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:39 am
by Old Hunter
It bears a strong resemblance to this 3-3/8" Primble I have in my collection (made by Boker USA). OH

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:56 am
by btrwtr
Boker would be my best guess. Nice looking knife. That Primble is just about a dead ringer for it. Pin placement shield and all.

Here is one I found in the Bay.

Wayne

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:06 pm
by Simple Man
Ok , after a bit of searching 9695 Boker (good lead 0078, thx), I'm really thinking it is a true Boker with the simple "BOKER" stamp and the federal shield making it 1930-1950 USA production, which feels about right for the knife. Thanks to vikingdog and rangerbluedog for that info. ::tu::

So until proved different - that is my story, and I'm stickin to it....maybe....

".......The 1463 pattern is a new one to me. I've never seen one, and none of the catalogs I have show that pattern. The closest I have is a stock pattern shown in a 1941 ad. The top one looks kind of like a 9695 pattern but I'm not sure. Boker made so many swell end jacks.

I'll venture a guess. The BOKER tang stamp was used from circa 1930 to 1970. The federal shield was used by Boker from the early 1900s through the 1950s. So the top knife would have been made circa 1930-1950s.
The bottom would have been made circa 1940s to 1950s......"

- rangerbluedog from this thread
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 4&start=30

Pic from thread
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... &mode=view

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:36 pm
by msteele6
The tang stamp reminds me of the hardware brand Enderes.

Their tang stamp consisted of a rectangle inside of which was the word "ENDERES". The "E" in "ENDERES" was formed by a small middle line extending from the left side of the rectangle and is often missed by sellers and therefore the knives are often listed as "NDERES" knives.

Don't know who might have manufactured their knives for them, quite possibly Boker.

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:23 pm
by msteele6
Here is a picture of an Enderes tang stamp I lifted off of eBay (you can click the picture for a clearer view):

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:42 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Look up "Four Square" out of Chicago.

CNoyes

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:57 pm
by Simple Man
Huh?? ::cb:: I'm not finding anything, can you help me out?

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:01 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
I'm sorry.
"Square Deal", Peoria, IL
CNOYES

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:31 pm
by Simple Man
Well, the more I look at vikingdog's pic, I see some minor differences. It is real close, but the shield is more a fish than a federal shield, and the swedge is different.

I haven't had much luck nailing it down as an Enderes or Square Deal, but will continue to look. I'm still leaning toward Boker though and will take the seller at his word till I can tell different.

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:19 am
by RobesonsRme.com
You might also check out Lawton Cutlery Co. Chicago.
They had a logo similar to the Square Deal.
Charlie

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:05 am
by btrwtr
I'm pretty sure that's a USA made Boker. Size, bolsters, pulls, tangs, swedges, pin locations all look the same to me. Imagine a big block letter stamp just like the eBay pic I posted. Pretty sure I can make out the B in your pic. If I had to bet that's where I'd put my money.

Beat Regards,

Wayne

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:33 pm
by Miller Bro's
msteele6 wrote:The tang stamp reminds me of the hardware brand Enderes.
No doubt in my mind that is what was stamped on it ::nod::

Re: Nice old Jack, but whutizit? Boker?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:12 am
by cattaraugus57
Enderes eh?...wonder who the maker really was then?..I'll leave that to the experts ::nod::
Really great looking Knife there...if you ever get tired of it hanging around.... :lol: