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Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:22 am
by FRJ
Thanks Roger.

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:07 am
by RobesonsRme.com
When Robeson started applying pattern numbers to their knives, they assigned that knife the number 004. That pattern has been around for a long time.

Beautiful premium quality knife in great condition.

Charlie

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:16 am
by kootenay joe
Thank you Charlie. Am i correct that liners are nickel-silver, not brass ?
Is there anyway to determine age of this 4 blade senator ? or was it made unchanged for all it's years of production ?
And finally, i assume over the years quite a few were made. Is it unusual to see one in the unused condition ? or are there 'quite a few' out there ?
kj

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:04 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Roland, for whatever reason, I have been very fortunate in finding and buying similar four bladed premium quality knives with pearl handles in mint or near mint condition. For some reason, they did not get used up and honed down.

Bruce Voyles once postulated that such knives were generally marketed in upscale gentlemen's clothing stores and tended to stay in the shops and when the early knife dealers started scouring the country for mint knife displays, they just bought them all up.

Also, the gentleman that would have bought such a knife would not have abused it and would have taken good care of it and stored it properly.

Such knives were not bought by laborers or tradesmen or farmers.

Here are some of the ones I've collected.

Charlie

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:16 pm
by Quick Steel
A beautiful collection of MOP. Congrats Charlie.

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 6:12 pm
by kootenay joe
Oh, my ! What beautiful Gent's knives ! And even an original box & insert, first Robeson box i have seen. Looks like 2 have a gold shield. Is the bottom one the same pattern as my knife, 74304 ? I can see it is the basic 'model', the more upscale ones have bolsters & a shield.
I do like the explanation as to why pearl Gent's knives are often seen in near mint condition.
I am beginning to see Robeson as an upscale manufacturer for all their knives. Were they more expensive than a comparable Case or Cattaraugus during the time before WW II ?
kj

All above have nickel-silver liners ?

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:37 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Roland, the bottom-most knife is an 006, not an 004. It is 3 5/16 inches long by my measurement. An original Robeson catalog says 3 1/2"s.

All the knives in that post have brass liners and nickel-silver bolsters, as indicated by the third digit "2" in the pattern number, except the bottom-most knife, it has nickel-silver liners and bolsters.

So, yes, your knife, given the "3" in the pattern number should have nickel-silver liners.

Those shields are not gold, but gold-leafed, I believe. The shields are not metal. They are some kind of paper or fiber composite.

BTW; if you place your cursor on most of my photos, the pattern number will show.

The second knife down has covered backsprings.

I do not have access to any old price lists, so I do not know what such knives sold for back then.

Charlie

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:11 pm
by kootenay joe
Thank you again Charlie for helping me more fully appreciate the few Robeson knives i have.
I have noticed that old British and German Gent's type knives are usually found in a well used condition with blade loss from repeated sharpening. These likely were not carried as gifts in men's clothing stores.
kj

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:58 pm
by FRJ
Here are two nice Robeson Wharncliffe knives I bought from Charlie. These knives are 3 3/8" closed.

Thank you, Charlie for the chance to buy these fine knives and team them up with my jigged bone knife.

IN TWO POSTS ......

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:04 am
by Duffer
Joe, very nice Wharncliffe you got from Charlie! Hard to get anything but nice Robesons from the man ::nod:: I see one Wharncliffe folder but where is the other one?

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:10 am
by FRJ
Post # 2 for the pearl .........

Thanks for looking.

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:02 am
by Duffer
Joe, a wharncliffe folder is a wonderful pattern but when it wears MOP it is out of this world beautiful! Congratulations on two great wharncliffe Robeson Folders ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:14 am
by FRJ
Thank you very much, Lloyd.
I agree, a Wharncliffe in pearl is pretty hard to beat.
Thanks again, Lloyd.

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:20 pm
by kootenay joe
The 2 Wharncliffe blades look to have a different profile, the one with the pearl knife looks longer and narrower spine to edge. Is the blade on black handle full length ?
The nail nick on both is close to blade spine at distal end, basically at the spine. This can happen from re-profiling the blade but i think here the nick placement is this way to facilitate access when closed ?
Very nice Wharncliffe pen knives.
kj
Edit to add: pics of closed position show Wharncliffe tips at the same place relative to pen blade & frame so both are likely full length.

Re: Robeson pocket knives

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:36 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Joe, I'm pleased you like those two.

I had totally forgotten that Continental stamped pen blade was in that knife. ::facepalm::

Somebody else bought my best Robeson Wharnecliff, a stag handled whittler with bird's eye pins. ::tu::

Charlie