A Robeson Hawk With Indian Trail Bone handles..

The first Robeson knives were imported by Millard Robeson from England and Germany exclusively. This continued from 1979 until 1896 when Robeson began manufacturing knives in the United States. Since inception, the company has gone through several reorganizations & eventually ended up as a Queen Cutlery brand.
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That’s about as nice an example of that pattern from Robeson one is likely to see.

I do not know if Robeson and Cattaraugus got those handles from the same source or not.

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Great old knife

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Several makers used worn groove bone.Robeson,Cattaraugus, Napanoch and Phoenix for sure.Possibly others also.
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peanut740 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:20 am Several makers used worn groove bone.Robeson,Cattaraugus, Napanoch and Phoenix for sure.Possibly others also.
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Mumbleypeg wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:57 am
peanut740 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:20 am Several makers used worn groove bone.Robeson,Cattaraugus, Napanoch and Phoenix for sure.Possibly others also.
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I was thinking more of Case fixed blades. Possibly made for Case by Kinfolks, but many had worm-groove or “Indian Trail” bone handles.

And there’s this, which may or may not have been made by KA-BAR. ::shrug:: Whoever made it, it’s Rogers bone that I’ve always thought of as “Indian Trail” bone

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That is the best looking hawkbill pruner I have ever seen! 8) ::tu::

RE: Indian Trail/Wormgroove...I suspect that much like with many terms used to describe knives ("Wharncliffe" comes to mind), the meaning has expanded over time to include variations that are similar but not exactly identical to the original meaning.

Eg. Here's a Robeson Pocket-Eze #51 with Amber Wormgroove Jigged Bone. (That is the company's name for it printed on the box label).
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QTCut5 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:09 am That is the best looking hawkbill pruner I have ever seen! 8) ::tu::

RE: Indian Trail/Wormgroove...I suspect that much like with many terms used to describe knives ("Wharncliffe" comes to mind), the meaning has expanded over time to include variations that are similar but not exactly identical to the original meaning.

Eg. Here's a Robeson Pocket-Eze #51 with Amber Wormgroove Jigged Bone. (That is the company's name for it printed on the box label).
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I like that one!
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Steve Warden wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:54 pm I like that one!
Thanks, Steve... ::handshake:: ...I like it, too ::nod:: TBH, I've never been particularly interested in wormgroove jigging that much.

Check out how much the amber bone color comes through when photographed under different light:
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QTCut5 wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:55 am
Steve Warden wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:54 pm I like that one!
Thanks, Steve... ::handshake:: ...I like it, too ::nod:: TBH, I've never been particularly interested in wormgroove jigging that much.

Check out how much the amber bone color comes through when photographed under different light:
Good job with the photos!! I wouldn't have called that worm groove, but that's me. I'm with you, not particularly interested in worm groove, but I do like yours very much.
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QTCut5 wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:55 am
Steve Warden wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:54 pm I like that one!
Thanks, Steve... ::handshake:: ...I like it, too ::nod:: TBH, I've never been particularly interested in wormgroove jigging that much.

Check out how much the amber bone color comes through when photographed under different light:
Really pretty handles on that one Q. Great knife. ::nod::
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Scagel: I posted this knife in the Robeson thread on September 12. Do you consider it "Indian Trail" ? Odd that the pattern stamp is in 2 lines. They are great knives, one of my favorites in the collection. Was it expensive? I think I gave $45 for mine quite a while ago. Thanks. J.O'
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Scagel: Those bones look like they could have been jigged by the same person! BTW, Great name! Any relation to the master? J.O'.
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Duh! Forgot to send the pic! Tried to copy your picture orientation to compare the jigging. They'ye darn close. J.O'.
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Given Cattaraugus Cutlery Company's close advertising association to the American Indians I have always considered their worm groove bone to be justifiably called Indian Trail bone. Indian Trail bone on a Catt knife and worm groove on any other knife. Just the way I think about it. Beutiful bone no matter what you call it. Catts in the top pic.
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Cannot substantiate this, but I suspect the “Worm Groove” name for this bone came from the fact that the floor of the grooves usually has a segmented appearance, like the segmented body of an earthworm.

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Beautiful group. Especially like that Wilbert! ::tu:: ::tu:: J.O'.
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