Robeson Sunfish Knife

The first Robeson knives were imported by Millard Robeson from England and Germany exclusively. This continued from 1979 until 1896 when Robeson began manufacturing knives in the United States. Since inception, the company has gone through several reorganizations & eventually ended up as a Queen Cutlery brand.
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Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby thewhyser1 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:09 pm

Hello, I'm new to this and would like to get some information on a knife I own. The markings are faint, but Robeson and Sure Edge are partially visible. I believe it is a sunfish knife with bone handle and numbered 622409. My research tells me that it is bone, 2 blades, brass bolster, factory pattern, from approx. 1911-12. ANY information would be greatly appreciated. If I can figure out how to post pictures, I will do so. Thanks, Tom
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby Doc B » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:53 pm

I'm guessing that's nickel-silver, on the bolsters (end caps). It's pinned with brass pins and I'm guessing brass liners. There will be far more knowledgeable people, who will come along and give you a better answer; but, you have a very nice knife there!
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby woodwalker » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:32 am

Beautiful knife!!! :)

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby peanut740 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:44 am

Those are steel bolsters.Likely pre-1920.Robeson was the only company to make a swellcenter sunfish.Appears to be in pretty good shape.Nice find. ::tu::
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby philco » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:52 am

Handles are worm grove bone and they are beautiful ! ::tu::
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby Duffer » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:09 am

Tom, nice old Sunfish or Elephant Toe! Here is a thread/post on AAPK with this exact same Robeson Sunfish pattern no. 622409 you might find interesting. Welcome aboard!!

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=16748&p=149864&hilit=Robeson+Elephant+Toe#p149864
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby thewhyser1 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:07 pm

Thank you all for the amazing information!! What a great website!

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:29 pm

Welcome to AAPK!

You have a very nice old Robeson knife. It's seen some heavy use, but no abuse and it's a survivor, probably approaching a hundred years in age, if, indeed, it has not already exceeded that.

The blades, though tarnished, are fairly near original shape and size.

The handles are very attractive, enough so, to make the knife desirable to just about any collector of old knives.

Robeson's toenail knives were somewhat unique, in that they were swell-center, as Roger stated and they were the only company to make a swell-center, equal-end one.

Also, Robeson was the only company, as far as I know, to make their toenails using two backsprings. The large blade rides on both springs and the smaller blade on one. They also made them with one backspring. I think the single spring knife is the more rare of the two.

Here is my example, an apparent salesman sample, as it does have an inked pricing code on the master blade. The handles are kind of bland compared to some. It's the only one I've ever owned.

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby Doc B » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:09 pm

I told you more knowledgeable people would come along!
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby thewhyser1 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:47 pm

WOW!!! Thank you all again. I never expected to receive so much info. and so quickly. I've spent over two years trying to identify this knife, and in one day my dreams came true. THANK YOU!!

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby wlf » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:01 pm

We know everything, we just can't remember it all. :)
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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:02 pm

Whyser1;

The word below "ROBESON" on the master blade tang stamp is "ShurEdge".

Could you possibly tell us what might be below that?

It might be "ROCHESTER" or "ROCHESTER, N.Y." or it could be a simple, "U.S.A."

Knowing what's there would help in dating your knife more accurately.

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby thewhyser1 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:45 pm

Hi Charlie, The large blade just has "Robeson ShurEdge", however, the small blade is marked "Robeson USA". Thanks for your help!!! Tom

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:30 pm

Unfortunately, Robeson knives cannot be dated using the stamps on secondary blades.

There was more to the master stamp. It's just been worn off.

Assuming the stamp to have been one of the three I mentioned above, the knife's earliest possible start date would be 1911 and its latest 1939.

That is according to Tom Kalcevic, a noted Robeson collector, historian and author in, Knives Can Talk!, his seminal book on collecting Robeson Cutlery Company items. It's long out of print, but occasionally found on Ebay or Amazon or elsewhere on the internet via a search engine of your choice.

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Re: Robeson Sunfish Knife

Postby Colonel26 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:13 pm

Outstanding old knife. ::tu::
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