Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Kershaw began its foray into the knife business sometime during 1974. The company was originally based in Portland Oregon, but most early knives were manufactured in Japan. The first US manufacturing plant was opened in 1997 & the company currently offers knives made in the U.S., Japan, & China. Pete Kershaw (an ex Gerber salesman) started the business.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by TwoFlowersLuggage » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:16 pm

The Kershaw Leek is a great knife. The Ken Onion/Kershaw assisted opening system is the next best thing to an automatic. A couple of bits of info that might be useful:

Kershaw factory blems are marked with 4 "X" on the blade, like this: https://kershawguy.com/wp-content/uploa ... scaled.jpg

Several years ago, Ken Onion, the designer of the Kershaw Leek, Shallot & Chive left Kershaw and went to CRKT. Since then, Kershaw has continued to sell the Ken Onion knives. The Leek, in particular, has been released in a wild array of different colors, steels and handles.

Someone mentioned clones - Well, you can find the "Kershaw Leek" on aliexpress, DHgate and the other Chinese sites. Are these clones? I don't know.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3305368 ... hweb201603_

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000917 ... hweb201603_
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by jerryd6818 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:57 pm

If they're not blems, he must have got a SUPER good deal on them to be able to sell them for $20 & free shipping. I'll let y'all know if it's a blem when I get it. Shipped today (well the shipping label was printed today).
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Post by jmh58 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:16 pm

Day ( or a few ) late. DARN!!! ::dang::
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by Ripster » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:30 pm

These leeks, the chive and some others are now on sal at Menards,,it’s like a Home Depot or Lowe’s. Looked them over on the rack ,didn’t see any defects. The leek was going for 25.99 ,can’t remember the price on the chive, think it was 19.99 . So what’s the deal with these Kershaw , is there a legal battle between Kershaw and this Ken guy? Or is it that there not selling?
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Post by jerryd6818 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm

Oh boy. Now I gotta make a stop at Menards. Maybe they will have a color I don't have (not likely but ya gotta check it out) and I only have one Chive & it's an Snap-On advertiser.
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Post by jerryd6818 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:15 pm

Update. Drove down to the closest Menards. No Kershaws (or any other knives) on sale.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by Ripster » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:19 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:15 pm
Update. Drove down to the closest Menards. No Kershaws (or any other knives) on sale.
Jerry ,what color are you looking for ? Or did they have them at regular price of 39 or whatever! These here are at 25.99 and am going to get one on my way thru town,might even grab a chive for my wife.
Will get info from store if possible regarding the sale price .
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by jerryd6818 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:03 pm

Ripster wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:19 pm
jerryd6818 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:15 pm
Update. Drove down to the closest Menards. No Kershaws (or any other knives) on sale.
Jerry ,what color are you looking for ? Or did they have them at regular price of 39 or whatever! These here are at 25.99 and am going to get one on my way thru town,might even grab a chive for my wife.
Will get info from store if possible regarding the sale price .
I wasn't looking for any color in particular. All I was looking for was a deal. All they had was silver and I have that. Thought I might get a Chive since the only one I have is an advertiser. Oh well. I didn't need to spend the money.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by Colonel26 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:05 pm

My two arrived today. There are no XXXX marks on mine and they look good to me. Well done, straight grinds, the black coating is even on the blade and the coating to bevel like is straight as can be.

But there’s one thing different about them than any other Kershaw leek I’ve owned. These were actually sharp out of the box. Every other one I’ve had has been blunt as a froe.

I’m tickled with these two.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by QTCut5 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:40 am

I really went over the one I got with a fine-tooth comb and compared it to my other Leeks. I found some minor differences but nothing that would suggest it is a knock-off clone. If it is a clone, it's a very well made copy that is every bit as good as the genuine article.
Here are my observations:
The assisted opening is not as crisp and the frame-lock is a bit harder to release.
The pocket clip is a tad longer, has a deeper upswept curve with a more pointed tip and sits at a slightly different angle on the frame (closer to the back spacer pins)
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The edge of the frame is not rounded...it's almost a 90 degree corner
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The bevel on the downward sweep of the blade spine is slightly different
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The 1660 pattern number is smaller print
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Other than these few differences, though, it looks like a genuine Kershaw Leek to me.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by Mumbleypeg » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:14 am

EBay tracking shows mine was shipped on the 16th. As of now it shows it’s been to 4 towns, all in California, and is still in California! ::facepalm:: ::shrug::

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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by Colonel26 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:42 am

QTCut5 wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:40 am
I really went over the one I got with a fine-tooth comb and compared it to my other Leeks. I found some minor differences but nothing that would suggest it is a knock-off clone. If it is a clone, it's a very well made copy that is every bit as good as the genuine article.
Here are my observations:
The assisted opening is not as crisp and the frame-lock is a bit harder to release.
The pocket clip is a tad longer, has a deeper upswept curve with a more pointed tip and sits at a slightly different angle on the frame (closer to the back spacer pins)
P9210001_1.JPG


The edge of the frame is not rounded...it's almost a 90 degree corner
P9210002_1.JPGP9210006.JPG


The bevel on the downward sweep of the blade spine is slightly different
P9210007.JPG


The 1660 pattern number is smaller print
P9210008.JPG


Other than these few differences, though, it looks like a genuine Kershaw Leek to me.
P9210009.JPG
I’m no expert on these by any means. But are you satisfied they’re genuine?

I must say that in impressed with mine so far.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by Stanwade » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:02 am

I got this one for $20/accepted offer/free shipping from another seller..I went back later to buy more and he was sold out also... good deal, this ones a gift...
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by QTCut5 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:17 am

Colonel26 wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:42 am
But are you satisfied they’re genuine?

I must say that in impressed with mine so far.
Honestly, I really can't be 100% certain whether it's genuine or a knock-off. I'm no expert on Leeks either, but I have owned quite a few and even though the one I got is very very close in most respects, the minor differences just seem a bit "off" to me...not quite up to the same Kershaw standard for the Leeks I have owned.

After further consideration, I'm leaning more towards knock-offs based on the differences noted above. Also, the low price on the aliexpress links that TFL posted strongly suggests Chinese clones: they cost only $18.00 with a 20% discount for purchases of 12 or more (approx $173.00 for 12 knives = $14.42 per knife) which are then sold for between $20 - $30 each = $240 - $360), which would explain how someone could sell them on eBay for $20 each and still turn a profit. Although after paying eBay + PayPal fees and shipping, that wouldn't leave very much in the seller's pocket.

Either way, genuine or clone, for $20 it's still a decent knife...no question about that.
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Re: Good Deal on Black Plain Edge Leek 1660

Post by TwoFlowersLuggage » Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:00 pm

My suggestion is to look carefully at the box and any paper that came in the box. Sometimes the copies will show differences there that are a little easier to see than on the knife itself. Slightly off color, or printing that isn't quite as sharp, or very minor details in the logo missing, etc, etc.

A good knife is a good knife, I don't like the guys that steal designs and I REALLY don't like the guys that try to sell cr@ppy fakes as originals, but I have also bought a couple of fakes just to see what they look like. For example, I bought a couple of Spyderco knives from different sellers on DHgate. One of them was quite good, and one was obviously junk. Rolling the dice is part of the game... :lol:
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