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Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:23 pm
by doglegg
treefarmer wrote:dogleg, that's a nice pile of knives, looks to be several different patterns. Were any made with bone handles?
Treefarmer
Sorry I missed this earlier Philip, I would have to look but I don't think so.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:50 pm
by JohnR
I've picked up a few Old Cutlers, as others have stated they are nice knives. This is the latest.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:14 pm
by doglegg
I have posted this other places (some wrong) but I suppose it would fit good here. My latest ,a hawk bill stockman, and it has fancy file work.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:43 pm
by Papa Bones
JohnR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:50 pm
I've picked up a few Old Cutlers, as others have stated they are nice knives. This is the latest.
Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhh, JohnR, those handles are beautiful. Very nice
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:44 pm
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:14 pm
I have posted this other places (some wrong) but I suppose it would fit good here. My latest ,a hawk bill stockman, and it has fancy file work. DSCN6037.JPGDSCN6038.JPGDSCN6043.JPG
Shaweeeet!!
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:03 am
by doglegg
Thanks Papa Bones, I was on an Old Cutler hunt for a while. Really well made knives and usually very reasonable. Thanks again.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:56 am
by TPK
doglegg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:14 pm
I have posted this other places (some wrong) but I suppose it would fit good here. My latest ,a hawk bill stockman, and it has fancy file work. DSCN6037.JPGDSCN6038.JPGDSCN6043.JPG
Hi Floyd,
Looks like you have a nice collection of Old Cutler knives going on!
Congratulations on your fine selection of OC's.
I stumbled across the first OC I have ever seen on eBay Germany this morning.
The scales look like the same material as the ones on your OC. Those wouldn't just happen to be white bone by any chance would they?
Could you look at these pictures & then guess what this knife might sell for if it were in the states. Just to give me an idea of what it might be worth.
Thanks for your time.
YF,
Tom
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:57 am
by TPK
TPK wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:56 am
doglegg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:14 pm
I have posted this other places (some wrong) but I suppose it would fit good here. My latest ,a hawk bill stockman, and it has fancy file work. DSCN6037.JPGDSCN6038.JPGDSCN6043.JPG
Hi Floyd,
Looks like you have a nice collection of Old Cutler knives going on!
Congratulations on your fine selection of OC's.
I stumbled across the first OC I have ever seen on eBay Germany this morning.
The scales look like the same material as the ones on your OC. Those wouldn't just happen to be white bone by any chance would they?
Could you look at these pictures & then guess what this knife might sell for if it were in the states. Just to give me an idea of what it might be worth.
Thanks for your time.
YF,
Tom
One more picture.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:27 pm
by doglegg
Tom I was on a real Old Cutler addiction for a while. They were made by Colonial to go from Ford and Chevy market to Oldsmobile and Lincoln. They are really well made knives and the blades are 1095 steel. I'm not sure about the blade steel on their trapper as it was a Camillus product. I don't think there were any bone handle ones as Delrin was the handle material of choice. I think there might be some wood handle ones as well but I may be wrong. I've found them to be super quality knives and for the most part very reasonable. I think there were two sizes, large and medium, and I really like the mediums a little better but that is just personal preference. I've not gotten a bad one and they are usually very friendly priced. I think you will be pleased with one. Hope this helps. Tom if I remember I've been on the shallow side of $50.00 on about all of the ones I bought, some in the $30 range.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:07 pm
by TPK
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:13 pm
by TPK
JohnR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:50 pm
I've picked up a few Old Cutlers, as others have stated they are nice knives. This is the latest.
That's a really nice looking puppy John!
Beautiful handles!
Nice find!
Does that etch read "1 of 30"? I can't make it out.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:47 pm
by JohnR
TPK wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:13 pm
JohnR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:50 pm
I've picked up a few Old Cutlers, as others have stated they are nice knives. This is the latest.
That's a really nice looking puppy John!
Beautiful handles!
Nice find!
Does that etch read "1 of 30"? I can't make it out.
Thanks Tom, yes it reads 1 of 30.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:50 pm
by TPK
My first Old Cutler was in today's mail.
Near mint condition. Fine F&F. A wonderful addition to my collection! I am very happy to own this one!
Here are some pictures of it. Thanks for looking!
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:51 pm
by TPK
Additional Information:
If anyone has ever wondered about the Patent Nr. on these Old Cutler knives, I found out that it had to do with the Bolsters. The idea behind them was to allow them to be mounted when the rest of the assembley steps were nearly completed. Here's a picture I found that makes things a bit clearer as to how these bolsters were designed.
Click on the picture to enlarge it.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:05 pm
by TPK
I'm curious if any of our Knife Mechanics & MOD Makers have ever worked on one of these knives.
It would be interesting to know what they thought of these, I'll call em " click into place bolsters". Or do other knife brands also have these?
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:41 pm
by treefarmer
TPK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:51 pm
Additional Information:
If anyone has ever wondered about the Patent Nr. on these Old Cutler knives, I found out that it had to do with the Bolsters. The idea behind them was to allow them to be mounted when the rest of the assembley steps were nearly completed. Here's a picture I found that makes things a bit clearer as to how these bolsters were designed.
Click on the picture to enlarge it.
Tom,
Did you notice the name of the attorneys at the bottom of the page?
Treefarmer
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:23 pm
by doglegg
Not a knife mechanic Tom. But congrats on a sweet knife.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:24 pm
by knifeaholic
The way that they are assembled appears to be similar to Schrade's Swinden system.
I picked this set up not long ago.
This makes sense, since the pins are all invisible in the bolsters.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:25 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
I was selling them at gunshows in 1979 - 1983, and was my best selling brand. I used to buy them from a wholesaler for $35 a dozen and sell them for $9-$10 each. Some nice ones being displayed here. I remember my best sellers were the trapper, stockman, and Barlow. All the ones I ever had and sold were Delrin handled.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:25 am
by Jeffinn
TPK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:05 pm
I'm curious if any of our Knife Mechanics & MOD Makers have ever worked on one of these knives.
It would be interesting to know what they thought of these, I'll call em " click into place bolsters". Or do other knife brands also have these?
I’ve had one or two of these apart. The system is a bit different than the Swinden key. I originally thought I could drill out the bolsters for some new pivot pins (similar to what’s done with the Swinden key knives), but it wasn’t something that could be done. I’ve got one disassembled in a bag somewhere in my shop, I’ll have to dig it out and snap a few photos.
The system itself seemed pretty solid but it wasn’t exactly friendly to modifications. If I remember right the disassembly process was fairly difficult. And the bolsters on the one I had disassembled weren’t nickel silver, I tried to solder one to the liner and the metal just disintegrated (maybe some sort of cheaper, lighter alloy?)
Jeff
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:38 am
by TPK
treefarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:41 pm
TPK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:51 pm
Additional Information:
If anyone has ever wondered about the Patent Nr. on these Old Cutler knives, I found out that it had to do with the Bolsters. The idea behind them was to allow them to be mounted when the rest of the assembley steps were nearly completed. Here's a picture I found that makes things a bit clearer as to how these bolsters were designed.
Click on the picture to enlarge it.
Tom,
Did you notice the name of the attorneys at the bottom of the page?
Treefarmer
No I didn't but that's funny.
Thanks for pointing that out Philip!
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:38 am
by TPK
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:40 am
by TPK
knifeaholic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:24 pm
The way that they are assembled appears to be similar to Schrade's Swinden system.
I picked this set up not long ago.
This makes sense, since the pins are all invisible in the bolsters.
Great looking knives knifeaholic! Those Look Awesome!
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:46 am
by TPK
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:25 pm
I was selling them at gunshows in 1979 - 1983, and was my best selling brand. I used to buy them from a wholesaler for $35 a dozen and sell them for $9-$10 each. Some nice ones being displayed here. I remember my best sellers were the trapper, stockman, and Barlow. All the ones I ever had and sold were Delrin handled.
$35 a dozen.
Wow!
I paid that much for this one.
Ya should have saved 4 or 5 dozen of them, they'd be a hot seller now as well.
I hope I find a couple more of them over here some time in the future to add to my collection.
Re: Old Cutler
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:58 am
by TPK
Jeffinn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:25 am
TPK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:05 pm
I'm curious if any of our Knife Mechanics & MOD Makers have ever worked on one of these knives.
It would be interesting to know what they thought of these, I'll call em " click into place bolsters". Or do other knife brands also have these?
I’ve had one or two of these apart. The system is a bit different than the Swinden key. I originally thought I could drill out the bolsters for some new pivot pins (similar to what’s done with the Swinden key knives), but it wasn’t something that could be done. I’ve got one disassembled in a bag somewhere in my shop, I’ll have to dig it out and snap a few photos.
The system itself seemed pretty solid but it wasn’t exactly friendly to modifications. If I remember right the disassembly process was fairly difficult. And the bolsters on the one I had disassembled weren’t nickel silver, I tried to solder one to the liner and the metal just disintegrated (maybe some sort of cheaper, lighter alloy?)
Jeff
That's interesting information Jeff!
Thank you for sharing that!
I figured it looked easier to install them on that plan than it actually is to do. The overall quality of the knife seems to be pretty good though. These knives would make a nice little EDC but since I only have this one in very nice condition, it's in my little showcase. If you ever finish the ones you have, I'm sure they will make a knifer very happy.
Wouldn't mind having one of them myself.
But if I know me, it would end up in my showcase instead of my pocket.