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Stupid question?

Post by OSCAR » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:11 am

I see some posts marked “picklock”. What is that refer to? What if any other types are there?
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by kootenay joe » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:32 am

I don't know either other than some Italian folding daggers have a 'picklock' system to keep the blade open. Ray knows about this. Hope he posts.
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by Bill DeShivs » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:32 am

"Picklock" is a term describing the method of closing a particular style knife-usually earlier Italian stilettos.
These knives usually have a pin on the back of the blade tang that locks into a hole in a tab on the backspring. This tab has to be "picked" up off of the pin to close the blade-hence the name "picklock."
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by OSCAR » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:43 am

Thanks for the answer. I was curious.
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by kootenay joe » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:20 pm

Thank you Bill. Very clear description, one i will not forget because now i understand how if works.
I would like to ask about the term "Italian stilettos". Bernard Levine has said that a true "stiletto" is a fixed blade knife. Did i misunderstand his statement ? Or is there disagreement over what a "stiletto" is ?
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by doglegg » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:22 pm

Thanks Bill for the explanation. Very clear. ::nod:: ::tu::

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Re: Stupid question?

Post by OSCAR » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:12 pm

Kootenay Joe:
My understanding of the term stiletto is a long and narrow bladed knife, fixed or folding, often sharpened on both sides but can be on just one.
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by kootenay joe » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:01 am

Oscar, yes that is how most knife people think of "stiletto". It is Bernard Levine who insists on the original meaning which is a fixed blade. I was asking Bill to find out if any other knife 'experts' agree with Bernard. Bill DeShivs is an equally authoritative knife person.
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by knife7knut » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:23 am

My understanding of the term,"stiletto" originally meant a long thin bladed knife that could have one ,two,or even three edges that were sharpened and essentially designed to pierce chain mail or other types of body armor. Folding models were also made so that they could more easily be concealed on one's person.Some early Italian models also had graduations carved into the blades to be used to measure the elevation of gun barrels.
I would think a proper term for the ones in question could be "folding dirk" but I guess they thought the term stiletto sounded more sinister.And the term dirk is considered illegal to own in certain places. I remember reading an article on knife laws in regard to California's confusing statutes.Apparently if you were caught possessing an Italian style switchblade with a blade over two inches in length you were subject to prosecution of a misdemeanor. However if you were caught in possession of an identical knife that was NOT a switchblade but merely a lock back you could be prosecuted for a FELONY! This was because the two knives fell under two different laws. One law deals only with switchblades and gravity knives while the other is the so-called,"dirk and dagger law".I don't know if this insanity has been rectified but it should be.JMHO
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by OSCAR » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:19 am

Knifenutt. Another reason I DONT live in California.
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by Bill DeShivs » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:12 pm

The Italians, who may have very well invented the first "real" stilettos, call their automatic knives of the common pattern, "stilettos." They are generall not designed to cut, only stab.
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Re: Stupid question?

Post by kootenay joe » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:14 am

Thank you Bill. As the folding knives with stabbing blades are called "stiletto" in the country where they are made, then that is the name.
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