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The Tuna Valley Cutlery Company was an old Pennsylvania brand that was resurrected by Perry Miller in 2007. Perry had several patterns produced by GEC under this name in the later 2000s. In 2012, Daniels Family Knives purchased the Tuna Valley Cutlery name & working stock. Production has since resumed under the direction of Ken Daniels (co-founder of Great Eastern Cutlery) and his son Ryan Daniels.
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Re: Tuna Valley Picture Show

Post by Rookie » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:17 am

I agree Edge, I really like them and they are exquisite eye candy. If you get the chance, don't be afraid to pick one up second hand. They have a pretty good secondary market, and you can get certain patterns for 25% less than new retail price.
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Post by kootenay joe » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:30 pm

Whoa. you guys are buying them 3 at a time ! I guess all 3 are so good you cannot pick just one ?
Here i am fussing over the expense of buying just one. You fellows are inspirational.
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Post by Rookie » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:44 pm

1 of the cool parts about buying the Tuna knives is that they only release 2-3 patterns a year. So buying 3 at a time is cool, cause you only do it every 4 months. Also, if buying at a knife show, you can sometimes get a discount when buying multiples.
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Post by Rookie » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:45 pm

Here are some better shots of the humpbacks.
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Post by kootenay joe » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:14 pm

Is this Humpback a different pattern than the T.V. "Carpenter's Whittler" ? If so would you mind posting a pic showing both patterns ?
Edit, i just checked previous page, the Humpack & Carpenter's are quite different patterns
Of the above 3 Humpbacks i think the jigged bone is a real 'stand out'. I think i need to find the right dealer to get one of these.
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Edit: looks like the Humpback Whittler might be sold out, but there are quite a few Carpenter's Whittler available including some with mammoth handles.
Do you know if the Humpback will be made with mammoth handles ?
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Post by Rookie » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:37 am

Hey KJ, yes they are quite a bit different. The Carpenter had a sheepsfoot main blade, with clip and coping secondary. This knife has a clip main, with pen and coping secondary. The humpback is a little shorter, only 3 1/8 vs the carpenter which is 3 1/2 closed. TV always releases the knives in 50 burnt stag handles, 50 amber stag handles, and 25 buffalo horn handles. Then at a later date, they release them in the timekeeper version, and the mammoth ivory.

Don't worry, these knives haven't been listed for sale yet from the dealers. They were sent out on Friday, so I expect the dealers are likely taking pictures of them and should be listing them very soon. I only was able to get these sooner because Ryan Daniels had them for sale at the Queen Knife show this past weekend. Usually I have to wait and buy from one of the dealers, but this time I lucked out. I believe both stags will list at $150 and the buffalo horn will be $125.

I'm sure they'll release the humpbacks in mammoth ivory, but it will likely be 3-4 months from now because they need to get the ivory fluted and the bolsters engraved by Oiseau Metal Works.
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Post by kootenay joe » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:05 am

Thanks Rookie. Very helpful information and good to hear that Humpbacks have not sold out. I will keep checking for them.
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Post by kootenay joe » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:34 am

I spent much of today looking at pictures of available Tuna Valley knives, going back and forth trying to remember 'this mammoth handle' to compare with 'that' mammoth handle. Looked at other handle materials as well.
The only aspect of these knives i do not like is the tendency for thick handle slabs. I know it is more difficult to craft a thin handle piece but when done properly the result is a far superior knife. Look at, or handle, any Jos. Rodgers (and others) pre WW I stag handled folding knife if you need any convincing.
Only one of the T.V. sellers shows a pic taken from overhead, knife on it's spine, to show handle thickness. Some are not too bad but none are as slender as they could be.
Does anyone in the Daniels family read threads like this one to see what the 'knifers' are saying ?
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Post by Rookie » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:49 am

I know Ryan Daniels is active on Facebook knife groups. I don't believe he goes on any of the main knife forums, at least not yet. That may change in the future from what he was saying.

Yeah, I know what you mean about the handles. I think it's just a personal preference of liking huge chunky thick handles, or slim ones for more comfortable carrying.
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Re: Tuna Valley Picture Show

Post by RalphAlsip » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:25 am

kootenay joe wrote:The only aspect of these knives i do not like is the tendency for thick handle slabs.
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I prefer a thin and and well-matched (symmetrical) set of handles, too. In my experience the Tuna Valley Buffalo horn is thin, well balanced, and comfortable. The Buffalo is not as "eye catching" in my opinion..

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Re: Tuna Valley Picture Show

Post by kootenay joe » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:05 pm

I hope the Daniels read what i posted about handle thickness and the follow up posts as well. Thick Stag was simply a 1980's marketing gimmick. It has nothing to do with well made knives.
I have quite a few vintage German knives ( ~ 100 yrs old) with African Water Buffalo horn handles. I don't find these handles accent the knife as well as even wood handles. Ivory and pearl are my preferred handles and now mammoth is the only ivory available on new production knives. I am hoping to find a T.V. knife with slender, slim, beautiful, mammoth ivory handles.
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Post by kootenay joe » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:30 pm

Well, i took the plunge and paid the $150 for a stag Tuna Valley Humpback Whittler. I also wanted the Gunstock pattern with excellent mammoth handles but thankfully i balked at the $500 price tag.
I regret having to say that this whittler is an expensive disappointment. It is comparable to an average regular run Queen. The blade grinds are thicker than i think they should be and all 3 edges are dull (which is worse than "not very sharp").
I can feel a rough 'poke' as i run my finger along the frame edges where the stag & bolster meet, at 5 of the 8 'stag-bolster edge junctions'. Likely a few more passes on the buffer would have smoothed this out.
I couldn't stop myself from getting out my stag Rough Rider whittler which cost $16: all blades are very sharp & no sharp spots on frame.
I am sorry that i cannot post a happy glowing report on my new Tuna Valley Humpback Whittler.
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Post by Rookie » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:55 pm

Sorry to hear that KJ. I agree shelling out that $ you want to be happy with what you get. Have you talked to the dealer to see about returning or exchanging?
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Re: Tuna Valley Picture Show

Post by kootenay joe » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:32 pm

I keep whatever knife i am sent unless it is really terrible This knife is not bad enough to get returned by me. It will serve to remind me that i don't need any more new production knives except perhaps for GEC with ivory or mammoth handles.
I am disappointed that Queen still cannot get to a GEC level even at $150. Like so many others here i really want Queen to reliably make top quality traditional style folding knives.
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Re: Tuna Valley Picture Show

Post by RalphAlsip » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:45 pm

Roland, like you I was disappointed with my first Tuna Valley purchase. In my situation it was probably (mostly) due to my expectations being set too high. The things that originally annoyed me (snags, out of the tube blade sharpness) have significantly diminished as I have used the knife (Carpenters Whittler in buffalo). I have come to appreciate the operational characteristics of the knife such as zero blade rub, snappy smooth open and close. The blades in the knife are very well suited to my light duty needs of opening boxes, cutting string, etc. Recently I have also been carrying a Tuna Valley cattle knife with a punch (also in buffalo) that has been useful around the house. The cattle knife is a bit "chunky" as has been mentioned. However most 3 blade knifes under 4" tend to feel disproportionately chunky to me :)

Not sure if you acquired the knife as a collectible or as an occasional carry knife. Anyway if you do happen to spend some quality bonding time with your knife the pendulum might swing somewhat away from dissatisfied. I totally get the value for money comment you made vis-a-vis your Rough Rider whittler.

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