Is there a little piece of China in your pocket?
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I been putting RR and Taylor made knives through their paces. I have not broke one or threw any away. It been a good ride so far.
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I have a few Chinese made knives that aren't bad at all, Bucks, OKC or SOGs. I have no aversion to where a product is made and frankly don't care as everything I buy in Canada is foreign made anyway, U.S. included. I buy on price, usability and as good a quality that that will buy. I am quite happy on purchasing and using a $30 (Canadian dollar) Chinese made knife rather than spending (what I don't now have nor ever will have) $600 to spend on a Sebenza that will allow me to brag about, on that "other" blade site, or meet the approval of others. But each to his/her own I guess.
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Ya know, being a member here over the last 5 years I have abstained from commenting on the whole China knife connection, until now (besides a few "I don't care if they cut through steel girders like butter")...colin.p wrote:I have a few Chinese made knives that aren't bad at all, Bucks, OKC or SOGs. I have no aversion to where a product is made and frankly don't care as everything I buy in Canada is foreign made anyway, U.S. included. I buy on price, usability and as good a quality that that will buy. I am quite happy on purchasing and using a $30 (Canadian dollar) Chinese made knife rather than spending (what I don't now have nor ever will have) $600 to spend on a Sebenza that will allow me to brag about, on that "other" blade site, or meet the approval of others. But each to his/her own I guess.
That said, carry whatever you like. I for one don't own anything other than CASE USA made knives. Carry whatever you want. I am not judging anyone. That said, carrying a good knife is not all about bragging rights, it is about personal preference that includes ties to our country in my opinion. You prefer what you prefer and I do the same.
The only person I need approval from is myself.
Jerry
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Nevada Jerry,
I tend to agree with you concerning what to carry, that is carry what you like! I'll say I'm not the purist you are, Case has always been at the top of the list but Camillus, Queen and Schrade-Walden have crept in over the years. Most of them "foreign" things have been gifts or included in a bundle. SAKs I can stand as well as Opinels and there are some mighty nice ones from Japan but that old thing of "Made in the USA" always makes me feel good, even if it's on an old shell handled Colonial or Imperial.
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I tend to agree with you concerning what to carry, that is carry what you like! I'll say I'm not the purist you are, Case has always been at the top of the list but Camillus, Queen and Schrade-Walden have crept in over the years. Most of them "foreign" things have been gifts or included in a bundle. SAKs I can stand as well as Opinels and there are some mighty nice ones from Japan but that old thing of "Made in the USA" always makes me feel good, even if it's on an old shell handled Colonial or Imperial.
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+1 Jerry I take a lot of pride in my tools, when a tool partner in my trade asks to borrow a tool I take pride in what I pass him or her I personally try to buy everything made in the USA. BUT UNFORTUNALLY in this "global economy were not able to do that I use to have a saying but Phil convinced be not too use it anymorezp4ja wrote:Ya know, being a member here over the last 5 years I have abstained from commenting on the whole China knife connection, until now (besides a few "I don't care if they cut through steel girders like butter")...colin.p wrote:I have a few Chinese made knives that aren't bad at all, Bucks, OKC or SOGs. I have no aversion to where a product is made and frankly don't care as everything I buy in Canada is foreign made anyway, U.S. included. I buy on price, usability and as good a quality that that will buy. I am quite happy on purchasing and using a $30 (Canadian dollar) Chinese made knife rather than spending (what I don't now have nor ever will have) $600 to spend on a Sebenza that will allow me to brag about, on that "other" blade site, or meet the approval of others. But each to his/her own I guess.
That said, carry whatever you like. I for one don't own anything other than CASE USA made knives. Carry whatever you want. I am not judging anyone. That said, carrying a good knife is not all about bragging rights, it is about personal preference that includes ties to our country in my opinion. You prefer what you prefer and I do the same.
The only person I need approval from is myself.
Jerry
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Yep I got a RR medium Stockman in jigged bone from the bay.
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The problem with forums is it's hard to convey a meaning that doesn't get distorted. I am of the opinion that a person carry/use what they want or prefer and it doesn't bother me as to where it comes from. Just quality and value are the important issues for me and I choose what I like or can afford using those parameters.
Again I apologize if this somehow comes off as being preachy as that is not what I am trying to convey.
Again I apologize if this somehow comes off as being preachy as that is not what I am trying to convey.
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I am not bias on china knives. I figure if a knife manufacture cares about quality and are trying to make a good knife I will check them out. wether China, USA, Russia, Japan, wherever, It don't matter you can get junk and you can get keepers. I am inclined only to look at China designs that are original not copies or clones. Sanrenmu has original slip joint, liner lock and frame lock knives as well as TWO SUN knives, CH knives and a multitude of others that are not cloners. they are using high quality materials, if you believe what they put in the spec sheets, at half price as other manufacturers. Check out Two Suns integral flipper its pretty nice its going for about $125 on fleabay
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Ganzo 7211 in my pocket everyday!
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I'm packing a Ganzo G-7471-BK as I write this. This is an outstanding bit of automatic Chinese kit. (Try one, you'll like it)!
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Always have some China in my pocket. I have 3 American made knives, Ralph Wilson auto stiletto which I won't carry and two Case knives from my dad and grandfather and a Barlo of my grandpas. Guess the Barlo makes four, my bad.
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Demand the best from EVERY manufacturer. Country of origin is irrelevant. The world is too small for tribalism.
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Hear, hear!TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Demand the best from EVERY manufacturer. Country of origin is irrelevant. The world is too small for tribalism.
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Old picture of one of my favorite RR Lockbacks.
These are really well made. They are centered, no gaps, lock up securely and no play whatsoever.
Dare I say they remind me of my Schrade 5OT's.
These are really well made. They are centered, no gaps, lock up securely and no play whatsoever.
Dare I say they remind me of my Schrade 5OT's.
I never met a Schrade I didn't like
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For strictly utilitarian purposes, this little lock back keychain knife I picked up out of the $1.00 bin at the hardware store check-out counter is perfectly functional. Already used it to slice open the hard-plastic clam-shell packaging of some of the other items I bought and it still works; locks up tight and razor sharp. I wonder how much it actually costs to manufacture and transport a knife like this? At a retail cost of only $1.00, that certainly doesn't leave much room for profit.
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I've a Buck 379 Solo that finds it way into my pocket every now and then - to be honest I made the rookie mistake of thinking it was US made but even though I then picked up a 309 I still like to carry the Solo
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Your opinion not fact. If you look at my post, obviously relevant to me. I stick with US made CASE.TwoFlowersLuggage wrote: Country of origin is irrelevant.
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Are you saying that you do not demand the best from Case because they are made in the US? I did not say that you could not use country of origin as a criteria, what I said is that we must demand the best quality from ALL manufacturers, regardless of country of origin. I will not cut a US manufacturer slack just because they are a US manufacturer.zp4ja wrote:Your opinion not fact. If you look at my post, obviously relevant to me. I stick with US made CASE.TwoFlowersLuggage wrote: Country of origin is irrelevant.
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Of course I demand quality. Another reason I collect pre 80’ CASE. US made or CASE for that matter I will not tolerate a sloppy tool. As I stated, country of origin is relevant to me. It is not just rim knives. I am half German and Italian. Do not have any from those countries in my collection either or any other country for that matter. Just how I do it. I respect others do it different. And to clarify, you might have meant that but not what you said...TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Are you saying that you do not demand the best from Case because they are made in the US? I did not say that you could not use country of origin as a criteria, what I said is that we must demand the best quality from ALL manufacturers, regardless of country of origin. I will not cut a US manufacturer slack just because they are a US manufacturer.zp4ja wrote:Your opinion not fact. If you look at my post, obviously relevant to me. I stick with US made CASE.TwoFlowersLuggage wrote: Country of origin is irrelevant.
Your statement seems to say if country of origin is important in addition to quality, you are being a tribalist. Whatever that means as far as relevance to my initial post. By the way I am very familiar with the definition.
Edit to add definitions...TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Demand the best from EVERY manufacturer. Country of origin is irrelevant. The world is too small for tribalism.
trib·al·ism
ˈtrībəˌlizəm/Submit
noun
noun: tribalism
the state or fact of being organized in a tribe or tribes.
derogatory
the behavior and attitudes that stem from strong loyalty to one's own tribe or social group.
"a society motivated by cultural tribalism"
synonyms: sectarianism, chauvinism; esprit de corps
"the latest waves of violence were blamed on tribalism"
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I fully support your right to set any criteria for your purchases that you wish. Supporting that right does not prevent me from disagreeing with a specific criteria you may use, or from using different criteria for my own purchases. You selected a piece of my statement, took it out of context and commented on it.
Do you disagree that using a criteria of country of origin is tribalism? If you had grown-up in Italy, would you now be buying only Italian knives?
Do you disagree that using a criteria of country of origin is tribalism? If you had grown-up in Italy, would you now be buying only Italian knives?
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First off, all I knew was CASE growing up. That what DAd and I used and collected. And yes, I do disagree with characterizing pride in country as tribalism. Please spare me the Chinese keyboards, lamps, microchips, etc comment that will likely follow. Yea I have those. BTW, my company has an office in China so I have many Chinese colleagues which I like very much, highly respect and they are great people.TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:I fully support your right to set any criteria for your purchases that you wish. Supporting that right does not prevent me from disagreeing with a specific criteria you may use, or from using different criteria for my own purchases. You selected a piece of my statement, took it out of context and commented on it.
Do you disagree that using a criteria of country of origin is tribalism? If you had grown-up in Italy, would you now be buying only Italian knives?
With all due respect, I could give a rats behind if you like my criteria. Disagree all you want, not changing how I do it. Additionally, as I said, everyone does it differently and I respect that. Please point out where exactly I EVER said anything about someone else’s choice or criteria? A qoute would be great but unfortunately there is not one to reference.
I don’t have a crystal ball and did not grow up in Italy so can’t tell you.
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