AG RUSSEL - WHARNCLIFFE deal
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Re: AG RUSSEL - WHARNCLIFFE deal
I posted this in Mail Call yesterday but I think it also belongs here.........
My A.G.Russell Curved Regular Jack came yesterday. Someone else commented that he thought these might be 2nds and I'm of a mind to agree with him. It's a fairly nice knife but it has a couple or three "defects". Nothing terribly awful but defects just the same. Sorry to be nit picky but just not perfect.
#1, a notch in the liner. #2 Liner stands slightly proud of the handle. #3 Space between the liner and the back spring.
My A.G.Russell Curved Regular Jack came yesterday. Someone else commented that he thought these might be 2nds and I'm of a mind to agree with him. It's a fairly nice knife but it has a couple or three "defects". Nothing terribly awful but defects just the same. Sorry to be nit picky but just not perfect.
#1, a notch in the liner. #2 Liner stands slightly proud of the handle. #3 Space between the liner and the back spring.
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Re: AG RUSSEL - WHARNCLIFFE deal
I’ve seen these and other defects in other brands of knives. I think it comes down to how strict QC is.
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Re: AG RUSSEL - WHARNCLIFFE deal
He's got more. At least one anyway but it's an auction this time.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-AG-RUSSELL ... 0290.m3507
https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-AG-RUSSELL ... 0290.m3507
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Re: AG RUSSEL - WHARNCLIFFE deal
I dearly wish I had found this thread much sooner.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!
For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:
All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.
All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!
I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.
A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!
For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:
All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.
All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!
I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.
A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.
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Re: AG RUSSEL - WHARNCLIFFE deal
Thanks for the intel Phil. I'm not far for you and go to the store quite often . Really wondered about those knives. Thanks for clearing this up.
Doug
P.s. I really miss A.G.
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The sellers eBay ID is happylittledalek and he/she is located in Albany, New York. He/she sells all kinds of plunder. The listings look like an online garage sale. ---► https://www.ebay.com/sch/happylittledal ... 7675.l2562Phil Gibbs wrote:I dearly wish I had found this thread much sooner.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!
For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:
All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.
All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!
I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.
A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.
Forged on the anvil of discipline.
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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Thank you, Phil.Phil Gibbs wrote:I dearly wish I had found this thread much sooner.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!
For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:
All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.
All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!
I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.
A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.
I bought one of these from this seller. If you don't mind my asking, what exactly do you mean by "Pirated"? Are these counterfeit knives?
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Thanks Doug.Airborne 1 wrote:Thanks for the intel Phil. I'm not far for you and go to the store quite often . Really wondered about those knives. Thanks for clearing this up.
Doug
P.s. I really miss A.G.
Please look me up next time you visit.
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Thank you Sir.jerryd6818 wrote: The sellers eBay ID is happylittledalek and he/she is located in Albany, New York. He/she sells all kinds of plunder. The listings look like an online garage sale. ---► https://www.ebay.com/sch/happylittledal ... 7675.l2562
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Glad to answer any question I can on this wonderful forum!Railsplitter wrote: Thank you, Phil.
I bought one of these from this seller. If you don't mind my asking, what exactly do you mean by "Pirated"? Are these counterfeit knives?
I do not believe these are "counterfeit" knives.
More likely defective knives that somehow leaked out of the Chinese Factory IMHO.
If I discover more I will share it here.
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Phil, you don't owe me anything. That's just the way we roll here on AAPK.Phil Gibbs wrote:Thank you Sir.jerryd6818 wrote: The sellers eBay ID is happylittledalek and he/she is located in Albany, New York. He/she sells all kinds of plunder. The listings look like an online garage sale. ---► https://www.ebay.com/sch/happylittledal ... 7675.l2562
I owe you a favor!
Forged on the anvil of discipline.
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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Quote: "More likely defective knives that somehow leaked out of the Chinese Factory"
Yes and i think it is common place and they get sold in bulk lots. But where ? There obviously are some USA ebay sellers who know.
Maybe on Alibaba ?
kj
Yes and i think it is common place and they get sold in bulk lots. But where ? There obviously are some USA ebay sellers who know.
Maybe on Alibaba ?
kj
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-Russel-Fol ... Swr0RdnL46
Are these more of the bootleg A.G.R s. @Phil Gibbs
Are these more of the bootleg A.G.R s. @Phil Gibbs
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I would certainly bet they are. Lots of little clues: 1) Both sellers are in New York state, and the cities they list are about an hour apart. 2) Both sellers have a variety of "thrint/antique/junk store" items - and then there are a couple of these knife listings. 3) Price is less than half what they originally sold for, yet they are listed as "New, Old Stock". 4) The pictures look to be stock art, not a picture of the actual knife you will receive.
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Thank you very much Sir!!Airborne 1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:58 am https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-Russel-Fol ... Swr0RdnL46
Are these more of the bootleg A.G.R s. @Phil Gibbs
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Hello guys, is this the same knife?
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Thank you very much!!Dkg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:31 pm Hello guys, is this the same knife?
US $30.03 9%OFF | TIGEND AGR folding knife12C27 blade bovine bone + steel handle tactical outdoor camping hunting pocket fruit knives EDC tools
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The knife on the Aliexpress site appears the same, but, no A.G.Russell tang mark and rear of tang is slightly different as the Ali knives don't say China with the blade steel on rear. I would guess they were made in the same place. I bought two of the first ones a few weeks ago and could detect no flaws to be considered "seconds".
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Just an observation guys, not an opinion...
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Well we are rather picky here!!TazmanTom18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:54 pm The knife on the Aliexpress site appears the same, but, no A.G.Russell tang mark and rear of tang is slightly different as the Ali knives don't say China with the blade steel on rear. I would guess they were made in the same place. I bought two of the first ones a few weeks ago and could detect no flaws to be considered "seconds".