Shrade Evolution

Former Schrade President Walley Gardner and principal Joe Hufnagel joined with nine master cutlers to form a group of US craftsmen with over 300 years of combined knife making experience. The company they created is located in upstate New York where a long and rich tradition of quality knife making dates back to the 19th century.
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Shrade Evolution

Postby KAW » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:49 am

I had posted this over on the Schrade Legacy Forum, feel it is justified to post here too....

Today I just received what is no doubt the best Schrade Cut Co. knife in my collection & I just had to post it or I'll never sleep tonight....
that' s how excited I am!!! ::ds::
I also found this exact model listed in the 1926 catalog, but this knife looks like it could have been made yesterday.... which also got me thinkin'.... ever thought of comparing the earliest & the latest generation of a pattern?

This acquisition is a 4" Texas Pattern Premium Stockman № 8814G with a Green Pearl celluloid handle. By chance about a month ago, I happen to pick up a Schrade descendant in the form of a Canal Street Cutlery 4" Stockman with a "Mica Pearl" handle made in 2013, Serial № 034. The second set of photos show the two side−by−side.... but some 80+ years apart....

Does anyone else have a similar pair of old & new?

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'til later....
Ken

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby KAW » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:51 am

Here's the second set....

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby Old Folder » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:13 am

Welcome to aapk KAW. ::handshake::
Real beauties there, thanks for sharing. ::nod::
Lots of Schrade collectors here. My favorite of the two is the gold swirl, gorgeous colors.
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby Chase » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:06 pm

KAW,

Welcome to AAPK! Nice pair of knives there. I love the Schrades, but, I also love the Canal Street knives.

Glad to have you aboard the Site.

I also sent you a PM (private Message)

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby Old Folder » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Your old folding "Ruler" also requires mentioning. Neat ::nod::
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby Dinadan » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:22 pm

Nice pair of knives, KAW. It is interesting to see how close the old knife and the new one are to being exactly the same pattern. And I like that brass hinged folding ruler, too!
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby tongueriver » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:26 pm

Hi, KAW; nice knives; I am a bit of a Schrade guy myself. Your knife is a 8803P (smoked pearl celluloid), 8803G (green pearl celluloid) or 8803AC (assorted celluloid), not a 8813P. I can't say from the pictures which color it would be. The knife has been cleaned/buffed, but still a real beauty. The bolsters are different on the two patterns. Your bolsters are the more pocket-friendly rounded design, and are threaded, as well, a nice touch. The bolsters on the Canal Street are quite different yet. Also very nice. Two different aesthetics over a long time frame, both beautiful. Thanks for showing two great knives! ::tu::

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby KAW » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:35 am

Thanks for the welcome Old Folder.... & yes, I also collect folding rules made by Connecticut firms such as Chapin, Stephens, Stanley & Upson Nut.

Tom, thanks also for your welcome. Checked for your PM, but it didn't come thru. When I clicked on the PM link, I get:
View messages: Inbox

Folder is 0% full (0 out of 100 messages stored)
New PM

No messages
::shrug::

Dinadan, I'm glad you enjoyed the photos. Maybe a new thread should be started pairing up knives with other tools? ::hmm::

tongueriver, I went back to the catalog. The 8803 is stated to be offered only in Stag Bone or Mother of Pearl handles.
The 8814 is stated to come in the various celluloid handles. Altho really can't tell by the photos, mine does have a green hue to the color,
so it seems to match the 8814G.
I felt it would be an interesting comparison to put two knives made nearly 80 years apart next to each other made by related companies.

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'til later....
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby Dinadan » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:31 am

KAW - regarding the point of whether your knife is an 8803 versus 8814, you may want to consider the possibility that in other years than 1926, your catalog year, the 8803 may have been offered with different handle materials. I am not knowledgeable enough about Schrade to have an opinion on that matter.

And welcome to the forum!
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby ea42 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:55 pm

KAW, I think Tongueriver's right with the model 8803, although the catalog states those handles Schrade did accept orders for other variations from retailers as long as a minimum was met, and back then I've heard the minimum was quite small, around 50 knives. The 8814 shares the same blades but it had squared bolsters as opposed to the rounded bolsters on the 8803, which makes it a completely different pattern. Beautiful knives and great comparison!

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby tongueriver » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:01 pm

Another 8803. In the Schrade Walden years, this pattern had become the 879.
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby KAW » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:40 am

I stand corrected! :oops: I totally overlooked the shape of the bolsters.
Silly me to question the experts that are so in tune to such details.
I humbly thank ye all for sharing your great wisdom.... (can't find the "humble" emoji to add here....)
'til later....
Ken

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby ea42 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:07 am

KAW, just keep showing pics of your great collection and I'm a happy camper, any advice I can give is a pleasure.

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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby KAW » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:48 am

Thanks for the encouragement Eric.... I have some NY Knife Co related knives I would like to share but really don't see a forum for that.
Can start a thread, just not sure which forum to do it in.... any suggestions?....
'til later....
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Re: Shrade Evolution

Postby philco » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:55 am

KAW wrote:Thanks for the encouragement Eric.... I have some NY Knife Co related knives I would like to share but really don't see a forum for that.
Can start a thread, just not sure which forum to do it in.... any suggestions?....


I'd suggest Knife Lore would be appropriate for that NYK thread.
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