Case display/sample board from 1970s

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Case display/sample board from 1970s

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Anyone with info on this sample board? Can’t seem to find much out there in my research. I know it came down my dads hardware store, which he closed in the 80s. All case knives here. Any advice on how to care for it?
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From what I can see it appears to date from around 1977. It originally was in a wooden retail display cabinet. Measure the height and width of the board and someone here may know what model display case it was from. (Case made several different sizes. Dealers could buy the size they wanted and specify which knives they wanted mounted on the board.)

Unfortunately several of the knives appear to have issues of blades rusting, and deteriorating covers (handles). Those problems will be difficult to fix (but can be fixed to some extent) and will require removing those problem knives from the board. If you want to restore it and don't mind spending some money to do it, I would send the problem knives to someone who can re-handle them and repair or restore, to the extent possible, the rusted blades. The knives can be re-wired to the board after repair. Then I'd look for an original wooden display to mount it in.

Case Repair can replace the covers but may not be able to replace the blades that are damaged, especially on those patterns they no longer manufacture. There are some knife restore and repair gurus who are members here that could help you if that's the path you choose.

If you just want to keep it as near "as-is" as possible and stop the deterioration, you'll still need to remove the damaged knives, clean them and remove the rust, re-wire them to the board. Then keep it away from sunlight and in a dry climate-controlled environment, like in a cabinet with dessicant.

Below is a picture of a similar retail display, but a different size than your board, from an old Case catalog. The board you have would have been in one of these originally, or could perhaps have been ordered to replace another board.

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Rolen, I know what I would do with it, but I might get some disagreement on this. I would take all the knives off, clean them properly and oil them and either store them in individually wrapped paper, the kind that is acid free, or display them under glass.
I would not leave those blades open. This is where people will disagree, I think that a knife in the open position will cause metal fatigue. If you do take them off the board, I would love to hear back from you on whether they all snap now, or are some of these weak from having been opened for decades?
There are some recent threads on here about display knives. Someone posted a pic up the other day of a display board, that looked a lot like this one, it was on eBay. We were discussing this very thing about the springs and issues that people have when they buy display knives.
I’m a bit OCD when it comes to taking care of my knives so keep that in mind.
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Sharpnshinyknives wrote:I would not leave those blades open. This is where people will disagree, I think that a knife in the open position will cause metal fatigue. If you do take them off the board, I would love to hear back from you on whether they all snap now, or are some of these weak from having been opened for decades?
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Thanks, y’all! I will definitely keep you updated!
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To me it appears that the original board was assembled in the 1970-71 time frame. I base this on the appearance of the bone handles on some knives. Prices have been updated and are from the mid to late 70's. Several of the knives in the upper half have been replaced. We have another thread on this particular board somewhere in AAPK.
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To the OP: I can tell you this - condition is everything in collectibles, and the price you tried to get in your ebay auction was waaay too high for the condition of these knives.
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Silly me. Thought the OP wanted to keep it and restore it for sentimental reasons - didn't know it had already been listed for sale on eBay! ::facepalm::

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Mumbleypeg wrote: Thought the OP wanted to keep it and restore it for sentimental reasons
As did I. He stated he wanted to know how to "care for it" which, to me, implies he was going to keep it. ::shrug::

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I don't think his reserve has been met, so he probably will keep it.
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So to clear up things, I am not the seller on eBay.. that would be my brother, with whom I have a different opinion as far as what to do with these knives. Yes, for sentimental reasons, I’d like to keep them in the family, clean them up, take care of them, and enjoy having rnm and the memories they bring. Our compromise was to set an eBay reserve (which I’m not sure what it is) and if they don’t sell for the reserve price, I get to work at restoring them. I’m sorry to some of you it seems my motives and questions weren’t forthright.
I am genuinely interested in knives and always have been. I love this set, but not comfodent in my own ability to restore them to their best shape. I am new to collecting knives, which is why I have reached out here for help. I appreciate the help and advice. And if anyone is still interested, I will continue a conversation when it comes to this piece. If not, again, thank you all for your help and advice.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll be happy to help you any way I can.

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Rolen, thanks for clearing things up. Good luck on the restorations and the memories. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Rolen, Sorry for the disagreement in the family. Hope you get to enjoy the knives. If you need any advice on cleaning them, just ask. Plus there are several threads on here about that very topic. I enjoy cleaning knives, I know that’s weird, but my job doesn’t offer very many opportunities for immediate gratification. Watching an old knife come back to pristine condition is very rewarding.
Some of those knives are going to need more than just cleaning. It looks like that board was in the sun for many years. I bet when you get the knives off the board and look at the back of those knives you will see a HUGE difference in color.
Keep us informed about what happens.
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rolen27 wrote: Our compromise was to set an eBay reserve (which I’m not sure what it is)
Okay Rolen, first things first. Thank you for the clarification. Now, everything makes sense. So, as far as the "Reserve" goes, this is how it works:

You list an item on eBay as an "Auction". You set a "Reserve". That's the minimum amount of money you are willing to accept for that item. If no one bids at least that amount by the time the auction ends, the item does not sell.

A bidder, however, can bid "higher" than your reserve and that's okay. If a person bids equal to or more than your reserve, your item sells.

You might be able to set a reserve on eBay without listing it as an auction, but as a "Buy-it-Now", which means there is no bidding. A person either buys your item outright or doesn't. I don't know if you can do it that way because I've never tried. Hope this helps.

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rolen27 wrote:So to clear up things, I am not the seller on eBay.. that would be my brother, with whom I have a different opinion as far as what to do with these knives. Yes, for sentimental reasons, I’d like to keep them in the family, clean them up, take care of them, and enjoy having rnm and the memories they bring. Our compromise was to set an eBay reserve (which I’m not sure what it is) and if they don’t sell for the reserve price, I get to work at restoring them. I’m sorry to some of you it seems my motives and questions weren’t forthright.
I am genuinely interested in knives and always have been. I love this set, but not comfodent in my own ability to restore them to their best shape. I am new to collecting knives, which is why I have reached out here for help. I appreciate the help and advice. And if anyone is still interested, I will continue a conversation when it comes to this piece. If not, again, thank you all for your help and advice.
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For your sake, I hope they don't sell. It can be hard to deal with family sometimes. If money is not needed, I like when things stay in the family if family members are interested in them. If nothing else, maybe you can split them, you keep yours and he sells his. Good luck.
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Sharpnshinyknives wrote:Rolen, Sorry for the disagreement in the family. Hope you get to enjoy the knives. If you need any advice on cleaning them, just ask. Plus there are several threads on here about that very topic. I enjoy cleaning knives, I know that’s weird, but my job doesn’t offer very many opportunities for immediate gratification. Watching an old knife come back to pristine condition is very rewarding.
Some of those knives are going to need more than just cleaning. It looks like that board was in the sun for many years. I bet when you get the knives off the board and look at the back of those knives you will see a HUGE difference in color.
Keep us informed about what happens.
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Well, it looks like it sold at a reduced reserve.
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Late in response, but it did not sell! I’m working with a few local guys at restoring the knives! Thanks for all your inputs!
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It's even more interesting in the context of the prices back in the late 70's. The most expensive knife on the board is a #079, pearl sided sleeveboard. Those always bring good money, but i'm surprised how much more that pattern was than the bone sided larger knives, which go for much more on today's market ...
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Lansky1 wrote:It's even more interesting in the context of the prices back in the late 70's. The most expensive knife on the board is a #079, pearl sided sleeveboard. Those always bring good money, but i'm surprised how much more that pattern was than the bone sided larger knives, which go for much more on today's market ...
Yes...the peals were expensive due to manufacturing costs.

Case's most expensive pocket knife in the 70's was the Fly Fisherman. It retailed for $20.00 when a stag folding hunter sold for $11.00.
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