Nice find, I posted one a few pages back; had the long pull spear and a shield on the jigged black, I found that odd since that material was usually run on cheap knives.. Which didn't usually have LP or shield.knifeaholic wrote:This is a scarce one - first I have ever seen exactly like this.
Two things are unusual:
It is the "military" 45 pattern, but all of those that I have seen so far have a spear master. This one has a clip.
It has what I consider to be the third variation of older Case rough black. The first two are pictured in my book and can bee seen in this thread. The two most commonly seen variations are the "worm groove" style that appears to be a hard rubber material and the jigged type that appears to be an early (pre-Delrin) plastic.
This "third" variation has similar jigging to that of Case Tested era green bone, and it appears to be a hard rubber material. I have seen this material only on the 31 spear master two-blade military jack and the 45 military 3-blade cattle pattern.
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Hey Steve,knifeaholic wrote:This is a scarce one - first I have ever seen exactly like this.
Two things are unusual:
It is the "military" 45 pattern, but all of those that I have seen so far have a spear master. This one has a clip.
It has what I consider to be the third variation of older Case rough black. The first two are pictured in my book and can bee seen in this thread. The two most commonly seen variations are the "worm groove" style that appears to be a hard rubber material and the jigged type that appears to be an early (pre-Delrin) plastic.
This "third" variation has similar jigging to that of Case Tested era green bone, and it appears to be a hard rubber material. I have seen this material only on the 31 spear master two-blade military jack and the 45 military 3-blade cattle pattern.
Interesting knife. Thanks for posting. I believe this is the 63045 Military 3 Blade Cattle pattern to which you are referring. Parkers Guide lists as Imitation Bone as I recall. Interesting handles not sure what the heck the material is. She is an old TESTED unused, tight and not cleaned or sharpened example though.
Thanks for posting that knife. Love seeing the old CASE knives never observed before.
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Similar one here, this material doesn't shrink like some of the similar stuff found on the 31 and scout patternszp4ja wrote:Hey Steve,knifeaholic wrote:This is a scarce one - first I have ever seen exactly like this.
Two things are unusual:
It is the "military" 45 pattern, but all of those that I have seen so far have a spear master. This one has a clip.
It has what I consider to be the third variation of older Case rough black. The first two are pictured in my book and can bee seen in this thread. The two most commonly seen variations are the "worm groove" style that appears to be a hard rubber material and the jigged type that appears to be an early (pre-Delrin) plastic.
This "third" variation has similar jigging to that of Case Tested era green bone, and it appears to be a hard rubber material. I have seen this material only on the 31 spear master two-blade military jack and the 45 military 3-blade cattle pattern.
Interesting knife. Thanks for posting. I believe this is the 63045 Military 3 Blade Cattle pattern to which you are referring. Parkers Guide lists as Imitation Bone as I recall. Interesting handles not sure what the heck the material is. She is an old TESTED unused, tight and not cleaned or sharpened example though.
Thanks for posting that knife. Love seeing the old CASE knives never observed before.
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Yes the last two posted have what I call #2, the plastic-like material. My posted knife has a material that is still different from that.
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Well about half way through my lawn mowing endeavor The skies darkened and a deluge ensued. So I took that as a sign from the knife gods that I should go inside and take some pictures of my knives. Here are the 45's I've managed to accumulate so far.
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Super nice knives, Greg
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Greg, very nice! I like seeing the pictures stacked like that. It helps me understand why I favor a long pull by being able to see exactly what the differences are.
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Very nice Greg. That with with the punch Floats my boat highest. All are just darn fine no doubt. Just drawn to that one of the bunch personally.gsmith7158 wrote:Well about half way through my lawn mowing endeavor The skies darkened and a deluge ensued. So I took that as a sign from the knife gods that I should go inside and take some pictures of my knives. Here are the 45's I've managed to accumulate so far.
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CASE XX 02245
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Absolute stunner there Jerry!
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Thanks. I appreciate the compliment.royal0014 wrote:
Absolute stunner there Jerry!
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Jerry your 02245 budding and grafting knife is very nice and very rare!
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Thanks Ralph! It is a mint and very rare one. Book value is a joke in my opinion. They just are not around and not in this condition.RalphAlsip wrote:Jerry your 02245 budding and grafting knife is very nice and very rare!
That said, that knife is one of my favorites. Either in my pocket when I am gone, cold when they warm me in the hot oven or going to my Grandson that will understand what he has. I am leaning toward the former not the latter. That knife is not going anywhere besides those two options.
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Jerry, I guess it's a small world after all. I stumbled upon one just like yours a few years ago. We are both very fortunate to own these as I was also told that it's a very rare knife.
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Jdub, Nice Case XX 6345 1/2! In the XX era the 45 knives were made with premium nickel silver components (pins, liners, bolsters) so it is a well-made knife like the 6380 you collect.
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Thanks, this is only the second one of these I've ever had. I really like it. Super nice knife.
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It has been a long time since a Case 45 cattle knife has joined my herd - there don't seem to be many of these hitting the market. These pictures are a Case Tested XX 05245 1/2. The 2 blade 45 patterns with a single back spring have a very slim profile. Thanks for looking.
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Great stag on that one Jerry, nice find
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Jerry it seems you like the thin single spring knives pretty well. That stag is really nice.
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Just some very nice knives being posted. This is my only contribution, a smooth black cattle. Picked it up at a flea market in the condition you see.
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I thought I would rev up this old thread again as there are some awesome knives pictured here . I just picked up this 05245 1/2 on Sunday.
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Very Nice Greg!! Nice Stag on that!!
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