I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

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Thanks, Tom; I always want to know when the bird head pommels stopped. I have two of them, #08015 and #08075. One of them is a Herman (RIP).
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Cal what #’s have you narrowed it down too?
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:05 pm Cal what #’s have you narrowed it down too?
I have not; that is what I would like to know.
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Well here is a start Cal. Like I said before during the change over from the birds head pommel to the new style that maintained the SW stamp for a brief time. They also maintained the same sequence and use of serial numbers. Here are the examples I have on hand.
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Thanks; so at least as late as 08143. I should have been writing them down when I saw them on Ebay.
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You bet Cal. It seems the new style 171 with the SW Mark are the scarcest. Maybe someone will be able to help dial it in a bit more for us. I’d like to know as well.
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tongueriver wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:56 pm Thanks, Tom; I always want to know when the bird head pommels stopped. I have two of them, #08015 and #08075. One of them is a Herman (RIP).
WOW..... only 60 SNs apart and one is a real beauty that Herman did for you!
(I take it that the one you show above is the Herman knife?)

BEAUTIFUL!!!!

I really like the way this thread has morphed into displays. ::tu::
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Since this one came to me with no knives I loaded it up with all SCHRADE waldens. I’m running out of SW227’s. I am working on the last display now. I’ll shoot a pic out when it’s done. It also has a 227 in there. Like I said the 227 had a long run.
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MAN...that is a nice display James.

I would hate to have a problem like running out of Schrade-Walden 227UHs.... That is terrible.....LOL

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Guys, I have a flat pommel 171UH with serial #02129. They made the bird's head pommel for roughly 2 years, and made at least 8143 of them, and supposedly the earliest ones didn't have a serial number at all, so maybe about 4 to 5,000 per year. I'm convinced that whenever Schrade changed some feature of the knife they started the serial numbers over again. This should place my knife as made in 1973, and fewer than about 2,000 flat pommels with SW tang stamps.
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Out of my curiosity ....
Was the guard that has the SN stamped on it look the same as the older bird head knife's guard?

I guess where I am headed is this...
Could that guard be one that was actually an older guard that was put on a newer style knife?

::shrug::

Can it be said that the piece with the serial number were laid out at the cutler's table so the next knife assembled would definitely be the next consecutive serial number?

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black mamba wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:39 am Guys, I have a flat pommel 171UH with serial #02129. They made the bird's head pommel for roughly 2 years, and made at least 8143 of them, and supposedly the earliest ones didn't have a serial number at all, so maybe about 4 to 5,000 per year. I'm convinced that whenever Schrade changed some feature of the knife they started the serial numbers over again. This should place my knife as made in 1973, and fewer than about 2,000 flat pommels with SW tang stamps.

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You may very well be right. Thanks for the input. SCHRADE had a way of mixing in curve balls so it’s hard to dial in lots of times. We need to see more examples I think to be sure.
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Also, if this has not been addressed, they resurrected the 171 UH for a year or two, 1991-92 after a lapse of years. Same thing with the 498 49r knife.
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