Schrades are better in groups

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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bladecollectorr wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:23 am
Sweet display! I have been thinking about making some shadowbox displays so I've been researching different ways of going about it.

Are those magnets I see? It came down to three mounting methods for me, magnets, fishing line tie-downs or wedged in between foam and glass. I'm still in the planning stages... So far magnets seem the cleanest but I think the fishing line would keep the knives a bit safer if you ever dropped the whole display. The pressure-fit solution might go bad if the foam softened over time. It's my least favorite.
I use the "wedged in between foam and glass" method right now. The only draw back I see for that is that small knives in the same display with larger knives, tend to slide around and lose their place. They want to slide into the depression made by the larger knives.
The magnet method might be a good one to think about. Maybe glue down the magnets and put a cloth over them (???).... ::shrug::
Good luck with your display!!
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I went to Home Depot and bought a sheet of steel, which I cut with shears to fit. Rare earth magnets plenty strong! The problem can arise depending on the varying thicknesses of the handles on the knives which necessitates the magnets be thick enough to get the knife even, instead of a thick handle sticking up in the air, if you can visualize this. So some knives have two stacked magnets. These magnets are the little ones; they do come in different sizes. For fixed blades I doubt this method would work; the handles are too thick. Probably go with monofilament line in that case.
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Thanks for your display comments. I get what you are both saying. Pondering continues.

I would likely group knives that were about the same thickness to avoid the issues you mention and because the pen knives or LB-7-type knives I'm thinking about framing are about the same depth as their peers anyway. I don't want to mount and display my whole collection like this so I can pick and choose a group that would be easy to mount together.

My MOP or stag handled knives definitely won't get this treatment. I like them best in a curio or china cabinet. Each side of these type knives has a unique appearance and I also like to handle my knives too much to frame the majority of them.
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I have three more of those Schrade Walden (not Schrade) countertop displays. A little scuffed up in places but pretty good. I will probably never use them because I don't have anyplace to hang them or set them on a surface. Besides, as Bladecollectorr has mentioned, I like to handle them and I store them more compactly and easier to lay my hands on accurate documentation. I use bins and cheapo brief cases for the big stuff and Harbor Freight plastic stackable parts boxes with removable changeable partitions for the folders. Cheap and good. Every box or bin has an 11x13 manila envelope with the documentation for everything in the box/bin. That does not include the extensive documentation (with images) of every knife- on my computer- .jpgs and .docxs. Folders within folders within folders, ad (almost) infinitum. I don't know what I will do with those SW displays; it is a big expensive hassle to ship them.
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jxr1197 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:53 pm
I'll add this group shot here. It's the most current family portrait of my beloved Washington Jacks. A little more than half of them are Schrades.
washjacks.jpg
DOG GONE Jason......
somehow, I guess I missed your Washington family portrait....
THAT RIGHT THERE...... IS VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!!
2OTs, and a 3OT..... WOW.
Not to mention the Craftsman 2OT.....
WOW.... just WOW!
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Yep......you guys keep posting these beautiful collections, and I'm not ever gonna be able to clean all the drool out of my laptop!! ::facepalm:: Beautiful knifes for sure.
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Meridian_Mike wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:42 pm
jxr1197 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:53 pm
I'll add this group shot here. It's the most current family portrait of my beloved Washington Jacks. A little more than half of them are Schrades.
washjacks.jpg
DOG GONE Jason......
somehow, I guess I missed your Washington family portrait....
THAT RIGHT THERE...... IS VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!!
2OTs, and a 3OT..... WOW.
Not to mention the Craftsman 2OT.....
WOW.... just WOW!
.
I am IN AWE!!!!
:shock:
Thanks - they are a handsome bunch :)
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jxr1197 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:29 pm
Thanks - they are a handsome bunch :)
YES..... very photogenic!
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tongueriver wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:08 pm A little group of celluloid cattle and stockmans, Schrade CutCo and Schrade Walden.IMG_2226.JPG
I like this group and display. Very good Cal.
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Here's a box-full of consolidated Schrade orders that arrived today. I just threw it all on the scanner. The knives will all get cleaned and polished when I get around to it but they still look pretty fine as-is.
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wlf wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:39 pm Shadow patterns . All SCCo., except the rehandled one is marked C. U. Liggit Phila.. C U Liggett sold seeds as far as I know, I expect it's the same??

These first appeared in 1936 Cat. E supplement.Not many shadow patterns are 4 1/8". Extra THICK liners for strength as described in the cut and heavy duty pivot pins. The French ivory has the standard blades on most Schrade farmers jacks

The Fibestos material handles didn't last . I have one original fibestos handled knife below and one that's been rehandled. A Schrade S 7309F double spring (The only legitimate farmers jack I have found with 2 springs) and a wharcliffe (peach pruner) pruning blade. It also has the extremely unique budding blade with the spud atop and the thumb rest at the tang.(My all time favorite blade) Also has the flat sided blades. Very cool knife!

David Anthony gave me the rehandled one that he did.It was given to him by the trout fishing guy in NE Penn. that doesn't post any longer. I don't know if he's still alive and am sorry I can't remember his name right now. Saurconian ?,I think was his username, can't remember his real name though.
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wlf wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:39 pm Shadow patterns . All SCCo., except the rehandled one is marked C. U. Liggit Phila.. C U Liggett sold seeds as far as I know, I expect it's the same??

These first appeared in 1936 Cat. E supplement.Not many shadow patterns are 4 1/8". Extra THICK liners for strength as described in the cut and heavy duty pivot pins. The French ivory has the standard blades on most Schrade farmers jacks

The Fibestos material handles didn't last . I have one original fibestos handled knife below and one that's been rehandled. A Schrade S 7309F double spring (The only legitimate farmers jack I have found with 2 springs) and a wharcliffe (peach pruner) pruning blade. It also has the extremely unique budding blade with the spud atop and the thumb rest at the tang.(My all time favorite blade) Also has the flat sided blades. Very cool knife!

David Anthony gave me the rehandled one that he did.It was given to him by the trout fishing guy in NE Penn. that doesn't post any longer. I don't know if he's still alive and am sorry I can't remember his name right now. Saurconian ?,I think was his username, can't remember his real name though.
ScrewMe those are Awsome
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Hak1911 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pmimage.jpg
Hak1911, you need to show off that Geo Schrade Wire Jack you've got hid in the left side of the photo. ::tu::
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Papa Bones wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:17 am
Hak1911 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pmimage.jpg
Hak1911, you need to show off that Geo Schrade Wire Jack you've got hid in the left side of the photo. ::tu::
Is that a knife or a fork? ::shrug::
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doglegg wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:21 am
Papa Bones wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:17 am
Hak1911 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pmimage.jpg
Hak1911, you need to show off that Geo Schrade Wire Jack you've got hid in the left side of the photo. ::tu::
Is that a knife or a fork? ::shrug::
My eyes couldn't tell in the photo. You may be right, it may be a fork. But he may have others ::woot::
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These three knives were pictured in Jim Seargents book. Herman Williams provided many of the knives for the schrade portion of the book. He also donated many of the knives that were in the Schrade factory collection. These came to me by a dealer who purchased some of the collection at the auction and after.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:26 pm These three knives were pictured in Jim Seargents book. Herman Williams provided many of the knives for the schrade portion of the book. He also donated many of the knives that were in the Schrade factory collection. These came to me by a dealer who purchased some of the collection at the auction and after. D11C4B62-7AF4-4C1A-9846-428C70B30DB8.jpeg
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Thanks Tom
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Nice knives. Herman Williams was verbally promised that this would not happen but they lied. Well, they are all out there now and nothing to be done for it. I would buy them also.
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Cal, I managed to get a knife back to Herman once. He’s done a lot of work for me over the years. In the end we’re all just hanging on to these for a short time.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:52 pm Cal, I managed to get a knife back to Herman once. He’s done a lot of work for me over the years. In the end we’re all just hanging on to these for a short time.
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I like to cover my sub-woofer with ever-changing groups of knives. Scrimshaw knives get scrimshaw friends to hang out with.

Today I finally received a fine piece of scrimshaw art by Alaskan artist Michael Scott that I bought at the end of June. It had been sitting at my parcel forwarder's place for quite a while. I was very happy to see that it arrived undamaged after its long trips from Alaska to Pennsylvania and finally to me in Ontario.

It's a bear with salmon scrim done on a section of mammoth tusk that's pin-mounted to a petrified mammoth bone stand.

ebay just shut down the seller (who joined ebay in 2002 and has 100% positive feedback) due to their tightened ivory trade regulations. I'm glad I grabbed this piece a month before ebay sunk their business model. Obviously, I have no problem with Native Americans like Scott using ancient found mammoth ivory to create beautiful art (and income).

Looks fantastic surrounded by four Bill Feeney scrims and a couple bonus lockbacks. A sambar 1999 Calgary Stampede PH1 is on the centre channel.

One-of-these-days I will get a bigger TV and put my centre channel on a shelf. I'm too lazy to mount the shelf twice so the speaker is on an ugly cardboard box that is the right size.

Note the silver coloured wedge placed between the box and the speaker (to angle it towards my ears). That is a $100 extra-fine DMT diamond whetstone. Sadly, this is the only use I have for it. You can feel the knife catching on individual diamonds (clumps?) when you use it. Worst $100 I ever spent! I totally should have stuck with oil or water stones.
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Along with the mammoth scrimshaw piece I received in the same box an old 4-pin 7OT from the first, short-lived 1979-1980 release and a whetstone from the same period (around 1980).

Here's the earliest type of 7OT shown with the earliest LB8-type knife, its UH144 serial-matched partner and the Beastly whetstone. Plan is to clean and polish all three. This would be the "before" picture.
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The "1978 Christmas Edition" sets (staglon LB7 & UH144), representing various southern States, were the first use of staglon on a LB8-type knife. Note the brass shield on the "LB8". These sets are, to my knowledge, the only time a brass "Uncle Henry" shield was used. Schrade switched to nickel silver shields on LB8-type knives and never went back.

The Schrade Beast whetstone is a relic of Schrade's blink-and-you'll-miss-it "Schrade Beast" mascot campaign. "The Incredible Hulk" was a very popular TV show at the time and Schrade shamelessly tried to capitalize on that popularity. The Beast appeared (and then quickly disappeared) around 1980.

The stone is larger than I thought it would be when I was looking at pics. I'd call it a "medium-fine" stone designed for one-stop sharpening. I think it would actually be useful. I might sharpen some Schrades on it for full authenticity. I haven't decided yet. Stone is unused. My DMT-diamond-disaster might be good at lapping smaller stones flat again. Maybe I can put it to Beastly good use after all.
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bladecollectorr wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:53 am...the earliest LB8-type knife.

I've got one of those early LB8's with the LB7 stamp. I just pulled it out - serial 8741. Do you know anything about the etch on it?
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jxr1197 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:11 pm
bladecollectorr wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:53 am...the earliest LB8-type knife.

I've got one of those early LB8's with the LB7 stamp. I just pulled it out - serial 8741. Do you know anything about the etch on it?
The Uncle Henry 1978 Christmas Edition Sets were an early preview of both the 144UH and the staglon LB7. They had their own serialization scheme which had a 2-letter State code and a 3-digit serial. My "South Carolina" set is serial SC248. I think they might have made a full thousand sets representing each individual State (maybe 750, not sure). Etches on these staglon LB7 knives were of the official State Flower (to match the text and flowers on the 144UH).

The 144UH was first introduced as part of these late-1978 sets and was immediately listed as "New" in the 1979 catalog. The official LB8 Grizzly didn't show up as a catalog item until 1981.

When the LB8 Grizzly was officially listed in 1981 Schrade gave them their own serial numbers (similar to how LB7s were being numbered). The earliest ones (like yours?) were assembled with LB7 stamped blades. The earliest official LB8 Grizzly knives were already 3-pin knives if I remember correctly and I don't think they had any etch at all.

I have no idea what is etched on your knife. Maybe it was a factory customized LB8 (as part of Schrade's Giftmaster options etc). Maybe some company or another bought a bunch of them and paid for a custom etch.

Can you show us pics of your knife including serial and etch? Schrade mysteries are the fun kind. :)
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