Thanks, a very nice photo and collection of items you have there.Meridian_Mike wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:39 amNot a knife that will let you retire.....sorry.
Those 58OTs were made by Ulster and were available through the Prince Albert tobacco offer.
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I'm not sure how many were produced..... by many thousand I would imagine.
Those hard to find Old Timers
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These 61OTs are somewhat hard to find, glad I got this one!
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Yep.....
I can't remember where I got mine but it sure wasn't easy to find....
I can't remember where I got mine but it sure wasn't easy to find....
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Here is another one that is not that easy to find....
(Especially at a reasonable price!)
The ole 106OT "Grandad's Old Timer"
(Especially at a reasonable price!)
The ole 106OT "Grandad's Old Timer"
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The 225OT (Son of a Gun) is another one that doesn't come up everyday....
I got this one from a fellow AAPK member.
I got this one from a fellow AAPK member.
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Yep....
I would have to say... that one IS the hardest to find OT.
Glad to see it is in your hands now Jason!
I would have to say... that one IS the hardest to find OT.
Glad to see it is in your hands now Jason!
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Here's another hard to find Old Timer. This 8OT has the smooth brown plastic handles with gold and copper flake that can be traced back to around 1961. It was an experiment in the bone to Delrin transition era. I don't know if they ever sold these smooth plastic knives but they pop up once in a while, mostly on 58OTs. It was also used on the 50OTs and on some 8OTs. I bought one of the 8OTs and then recently got a 2nd one. The second one is in the pic below and the strange thing about it is it's stamped like you'd expect on a 1961 8OT but it's an Ulster. The clip and spey are both different from it's Schrade counterpart. I chalked it up to random hijinks at the factory but then I spotted another Ulster 8OT with the same scales. That knife is sitting on Ebay right now but there's nothing in the description to give it away. It's one of those rare birds you can only spot if you look at all the pics and ignore everything the seller says. I'll be really impressed if someone here finds it!
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Yep, the rare birds are flying...
BUT, like you say, some were just factory hijinks.... LOL
BUT, like you say, some were just factory hijinks.... LOL
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Well.... All I can say is you are right... I didn't see it and I cant find it.jxr1197 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:02 pm That knife is sitting on Ebay right now but there's nothing in the description to give it away. It's one of those rare birds you can only spot if you look at all the pics and ignore everything the seller says. I'll be really impressed if someone here finds it!
All I see right now is "saw cut".....
You are about to have 3 in your collection.
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BEAUTIFUL.... that 3OT has got to be the Holy Grail of Old Timers.
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Thanks Jason...... for putting me on this smooth plastic, "experimental", cover material knife. You are right.... you have to be a real sleuth to find some of these ODD Old Timers.
Now I have this one for my collection.
Here it is after a quick clean-up. It has the SCHRADE WALDEN NY USA tang stamp and it does not have an "8OT" stamp on the opposite side of the main blade tang. Another anomaly I suppose.
Here she is.....
There is a split due to shrinking on the pile side cover. Oh well, I am just glad to have this guy!
Now I have this one for my collection.
Here it is after a quick clean-up. It has the SCHRADE WALDEN NY USA tang stamp and it does not have an "8OT" stamp on the opposite side of the main blade tang. Another anomaly I suppose.
Here she is.....
There is a split due to shrinking on the pile side cover. Oh well, I am just glad to have this guy!
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I'm glad to see you ended up with that knife! I have the same one with the same Ulster clip and it also doesn't have a pattern number on it. I have another with a Schrade clip and that one does have the 8OT stamp on the back. The handles are embedded with a ton of gold and copper flake but you can't see it unless you have a really bright light and a strong magnifying glass.Meridian_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:30 pm Thanks Jason...... for putting me on this smooth plastic, "experimental", cover material knife. You are right.... you have to be a real sleuth to find some of these ODD Old Timers.
Now I have this one for my collection.
Here it is after a quick clean-up. It has the SCHRADE WALDEN NY USA tang stamp and it does not have an "8OT" stamp on the opposite side of the main blade tang. Another anomaly I suppose.
Here she is.....
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There is a split due to shrinking on the pile side cover. Oh well, I am just glad to have this guy!
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Jason, how did you ever find the 3OT ?
I once read that there are only about 10 of these in existence.
Find of a lifetime !
kj
I once read that there are only about 10 of these in existence.
Find of a lifetime !
kj
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Wow, that 30T is a find, you can see by the comments how in such high regard it is held. A true knife lovers classic.
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This 3OT was on display at the factory and was sold at the bk sale along with the rest of the display knives to SMKW. It has passed through a couple of collectors' hands before winding up with me recently. I also got the 2OT it was paired up with along with the plaques and associated paperwork. Herman Williams said he thought there were a dozen of them made and I also read somewhere that LT put the number at around 25. Two reliable sources quoting very low, and very similar figures so I have no doubt there were somewhere between 10-25 of these made. I have never found a photo of another one and I searched and searched so as far as I can tell this is the only one that the collecting community knows the whereabouts of.kootenay joe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:13 pm Jason, how did you ever find the 3OT ?
I once read that there are only about 10 of these in existence.
Find of a lifetime !
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Jason, thanks for this 3OT information.
Ken ("Kogold" ?) in Australia has a 3OT and possibly the original packaging.
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Ken ("Kogold" ?) in Australia has a 3OT and possibly the original packaging.
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Although not nearly as rare as the ones above, I got myself another hard to find Old Timer.
A 34OTY.....
Made only one year... 1990.
It is not perfect but looks almost unused.
I have 2 of these now. I was glad to find this one a reasonable price!
A 34OTY.....
Made only one year... 1990.
It is not perfect but looks almost unused.
I have 2 of these now. I was glad to find this one a reasonable price!
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Well now.....
Thanks to a good friend here at AAPK... (thanks Grant!!).... I have a sure 'nuff 50 OT on the way!
It was stuck in a small knife lot and if you look at the over-all picture, it looks like a piece of junk. BUT, if you zoom in on the pile and look at just the Old Timer, you can see the liners are coined.
It has those old aggravating "shrinky dink" covers but lookie here.....
Yep..... I do believe that there is a 50 OT......
I can't wait....... another hard to find Old Timer is now in my collection!!
Yipeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Thanks to a good friend here at AAPK... (thanks Grant!!).... I have a sure 'nuff 50 OT on the way!
It was stuck in a small knife lot and if you look at the over-all picture, it looks like a piece of junk. BUT, if you zoom in on the pile and look at just the Old Timer, you can see the liners are coined.
It has those old aggravating "shrinky dink" covers but lookie here.....
Yep..... I do believe that there is a 50 OT......
I can't wait....... another hard to find Old Timer is now in my collection!!
Yipeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
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Meridian_Mike wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:20 pm Well now.....
Thanks to a good friend here at AAPK... (thanks Grant!!).... I have a sure 'nuff 50 OT on the way!
It was stuck in a small knife lot and if you look at the over-all picture, it looks like a piece of junk. BUT, if you zoom in on the pile and look at just the Old Timer, you can see the liners are coined.
It has those old aggravating "shrinky dink" covers
Mike I am glad you got the knife. That would be the first one of seen on eBay in about eight years. I only know of about half dozen.
I have one myself with bone handles. Mine has 5OT on the tang .It seems they used Ulster USA 5OT or 50OT as tang stamps.
Grant
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Shearer wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:57 pm
Mike I am glad you got the knife. That would be the first one of seen on eBay in about eight years. I only know of about half dozen.
I have one myself with bone handles. Mine has 5OT on the tang .It seems they used Ulster USA 5OT or 50OT as tang stamps.
Grant
I can't wait to see what the tang stamp is on this one.....
Stay tuned!
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Congratulations, Mike!
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