What Say You?

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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Re: What Say You?

Postby tongueriver » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:20 pm

Here is the Schrade Cutlery Company offering of interest, same page (31) as other knife, 1926 Catalog E.
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Re: What Say You?

Postby ScoutKnives » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:18 pm

To many red flags IMO , 2 different handles , master blade obviously cleaned and those blades in that frame are odd .
No original patina gets a ::td::
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Re: What Say You?

Postby wlf » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:27 pm

peanut740 wrote:Seller has some excellent knives and most are priced very high.I have bought a few over the years.

Ah Ha. The herd was culled before. :)
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Re: What Say You?

Postby tongueriver » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:07 pm

I don't understand why so many people think that this knife is some kind of counterfeit. Schrade, and other companies were happy to make substitutions of various kinds that did not quite fit the catalog pages, to make a customer happy. I think the knife is absolutely authentic, but heavily worn, cleaned and priced too high.

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Re: What Say You?

Postby JohnR » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:30 pm

tongueriver wrote:I don't understand why so many people think that this knife is some kind of counterfeit. Schrade, and other companies were happy to make substitutions of various kinds that did not quite fit the catalog pages, to make a customer happy. I think the knife is absolutely authentic, but heavily worn, cleaned and priced too high.



Cal, I agree with you,I think it is legit, what really is known about the early days of Schrade? A company of this era would not have thrown away good blades but would've used them up even if they only made a few examples.

It is even occurring today with GEC, I personally have a 1of1, 1of6, 1of9, etc in my collection and I know they are legit as I purchased them at the Rendezvous from GEC's store case, they don't show up in GEC's production totals, I imagine collectors having the same conversation over these knives 100 years from now.

Just as an example here is a more recent thread about a Queen Winchester Barlow that I have where it was called a fake and turned out to be a factory made knife. Whats to say the same thing did not occur in the early 1900s or any other time for that matter.


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Re: What Say You?

Postby JAMESC41001 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:47 am

Interesting conversation. I like to keep an eye on this seller as well. I also found the file to be a wierd combination but don’t doubt it’s a ligit Schrade. It occurs to me that this looks to be made inbeteen world wars so it’s not really a military contract knife so it’s not fair to judge it as such.the military would have ordered it with rubber handles or something like that. If it was mint unused it would bring at least double that price but after the beaten and cleaning it took the price is high. My guess is this one is not going to make it into your collection Charlie.

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Re: What Say You?

Postby tongueriver » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:53 am

JAMESC41001 wrote: My guess is this one is not going to make it into your collection Charlie.

If you are referencing certain jolly Canadians, I think he rarely descends to the bramble-strewn path of Ebay. :lol:

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Re: What Say You?

Postby JAMESC41001 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:06 am

Yes, I think he’s just getting us all riled up.

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Re: What Say You?

Postby kootenay joe » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:14 am

He is referencing Charlie N. who started this thread, not the jolly West Coast Canadian who resembles Santa Claus.
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Re: What Say You?

Postby tongueriver » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:23 am

Oh. ::facepalm::

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Re: What Say You?

Postby wlf » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:35 pm

I don't get the great difference in the handles. ::shrug:: Makes for interesting conversation.
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Re: What Say You?

Postby btrwtr » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:17 pm

tongueriver wrote:I don't understand why so many people think that this knife is some kind of counterfeit. Schrade, and other companies were happy to make substitutions of various kinds that did not quite fit the catalog pages, to make a customer happy. I think the knife is absolutely authentic, but heavily worn, cleaned and priced too high.


I can tend to be pessimistic about such things but there is enough about this knife that doesn't sit right with me that I am more likely to say no than yes when it come to being original.

Never seen or heard of such a knife before.
Heavily buffed. That in itself is enough for me to question a knife as being original.
Inconsistent handle wear and jigging.

Inconclusive as so many things are but I'm inclined to think Frankenknife before I'd say original. I'd be hard pressed to put anything more than money as a good user in it.
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Re: What Say You?

Postby kootenay joe » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:38 pm

With a used vintage knife that is all original, have it in hand and you KNOW it has not been altered. You don't know because you have inspected every little detail. You know from just being in the presence of the knife. I cannot explain it any better but i am sure every experienced collector here has had this feeling or experience.
If a knife brings uncertainty into your thoughts then likely it has been altered. Not definitely, but probably.
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Re: What Say You?

Postby ea42 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:18 am

Definitely a legit knife guys, although with quite a bit of pocket wear on the mark side. Looks like the main blade may have seen the buffer too. I've got one just like it. Not a Navy knife but a fancier civilian version with the old pick bone jigging:

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Re: What Say You?

Postby tongueriver » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:37 pm

ea42 wrote:Definitely a legit knife guys, although with quite a bit of pocket wear on the mark side. Looks like the main blade may have seen the buffer too. I've got one just like it. Not a Navy knife but a fancier civilian version with the old pick bone jigging:

Schrade Navy_225.JPG

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