What Say You?

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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What Say You?

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:03 am

Knife is currently on Ebay, priced at $225.00.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCHRADE-CUT-RO ... rk:26:pf:0

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Re: What Say You?

Postby orvet » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:16 am

That looks like a small Navy rope knife circa WW I.
I don't know if it is in the catalog, I don't have the catalog with me at the moment.
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Postby gsmith7158 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:33 am

The seller is a knowledgeable knife person that I have bought from before. I know very little about Schrade Cut Co. Knives though.
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Postby kootenay joe » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:46 pm

Why is the front handle worn down ?
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Edit to add: this seller's BIN prices are always high and some of his knives have looked suspect to me.

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Postby djknife13 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:56 pm

I believe Schrade Cut. is one of the easier one of that pattern to find and already sitting more than double what I'd pay, especially for one that is heavily cleaned. On a positive note, maybe it shows antique knife prices are finally rebounding a little or else, shinny still sells which is probably more likely. It is still a nice knife.____Dave

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Postby bladebuddy » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:07 pm

KJ I think the mark side scale has been buffed, attributing to the shiny worn jigging. This knife has an interesting blade configuration. I’ve worked a little with rope and having a file to keep your nails in good shape while working out knots helps. Steve B.
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Postby JohnR » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:26 pm

My opinions for what its worth, it is not a WW1 Navy knife, they were bare end with a bail and no shield, the main blade profile is not as wide as the Navy knife, I have an early Cut Co boys knife with this profile, I will add pictures later.

This one appears to me to be a civilian version in a boys knife size, would make sense to me as Schrade would have had nail file blades to use and why not make another knife with those blades, I know when I was a boy I needed a lot of nail work :lol:

It is a very attractive knife even though its been buffed, it does concern me that I have never seen another example but very few may have been made. The seller does list a lot of rare and unusual vintage knives and prices are high, I did make an offer on this knife but it was declined.

Pictures of the Schrade Cut Co I have and a WW1 pattern Navy knife by Thomaston.
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Postby gsmith7158 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:33 pm

JohnR wrote:My opinions for what its worth, it is not a WW1 Navy knife, they were bare end with a bail and no shield, the main blade profile is not as wide as the Navy knife, I have an early Cut Co boys knife single blade with this profile, I will add pictures later.

This one appears to me to be a civilian version in a boys knife size, would make sense to me as Schrade would have had nail file blades to use and why not make another knife with those blades, I know when I was a boy I needed a lot of nail work :lol:

It is a very attractive knife even though its been buffed, it does concern me that I have never seen another example but very few may have been made. The seller does list a lot of rare and unusual vintage knives and prices are high, I did make an offer on this knife but it was declined.

Yes his BIN prices are always very high. I think he may have acquired a lot of his knives ar a time when prices were higher and has more in them than current values. I've only been able to come to terms with him on one knife though I've made offers on several from his stable.
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Postby tongueriver » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:42 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:Yes his BIN prices are always very high. I've only been able to come to terms with him on one knife though I've made offers on several from his stable.

That is my exact experience. By "high" I mean 100%, 200% and 300% over. Now that is high. Some nice knives, though.

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Postby kootenay joe » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:17 pm

This seller still has me blocked because about 8 years ago i asked him a question about a knife possibly being re-worked. Seems he only wants buyers who go by what the tang says.
Ask him a question about one of his 220 knives listed and see what happens. He has a bone Schrade-Walden 225 with an out of focus picture of front side and in focus back side. For the high asking price i would re-take front picture unless there was something to hide. Ask him about this knife. If you get blocked you are being saved from disappointment.
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Postby peanut740 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:21 pm

Seller has some excellent knives and most are priced very high.I have bought a few over the years.He will take offers,just don't expect him to take half of his asking price.
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Postby JohnR » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:50 pm

peanut740 wrote:Seller has some excellent knives and most are priced very high.I have bought a few over the years.He will take offers,just don't expect him to take half of his asking price.


Dang Roger how the hell will I ever buy anything, you know me I'm cheap. :lol:

He did accept what I thought was a reasonable offer on the stag Challenge wharncliffe whittler that was discussed in another thread, waiting for it to ship.

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Re: What Say You?

Postby btrwtr » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:21 pm

The OP knife is a very strange configuration. Not anything I've seen before in person or otherwise. I can't say that I like the difference in the jigging between the front and back handle either. Heavily buffed and overpriced at very least IMO.

I have a hard time understanding why many sellers will have a high dollar knife or a knife priced at a high dollar value and only supply one or two pictures. Accurate descriptions are great but good pictures can certainly help to sell.
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Postby tongueriver » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:49 pm

page 31, catalog E. OP knife has substituted a manicure blade for the pen blade. Very possible right out of the factory. Shield difference, also very possible out of factory. Thinking a box full of six for a small sfo at a bank or butcher shop, etc. Pre-1930 jigging. Very bad price, poor condition when observed from my crow's nest.
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Postby RobesonsRme.com » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:14 pm

Thanks, everyone.

I've been interested in WWI Navy issue rope knives and this one popped up in one of my searches.

Problem was, it's not an Easy Opener, it has no bail, nor does it appear to have ever had one and it has a bottom bolster, which the Navy knives did not have.

I thought, possibly, Schrade had simply taken the Navy rope knife parts after The Armistice and created a pattern that would allow them to use them up in a knife offered to the general public.

I shared the auction with a fellow AAPK member and they thought it to be bogus and suggested I post it here.

Were it an obvious U.S. Navy issue from WWI, I would have been interested in it.

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