Schrade Tang Stamp Question

[XX Case XX]

Both these tang stamps are off Schrade 825's. What's the difference between the two?

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Mike

[Rusty1]

Schrade stopped using the Walden name mid 70's, If the covers are delrin on the knife then late 60's to mid 70's. Then they continued to use just Schrade after that. The factory in Walden burnt down in 1958 and they moved their operation to the old Ulster plant in Ellenville, then from there across town to the newer plant, which since the closer in 2004 has recently been raised to the ground.

Russell

[XX Case XX]

Schrade stopped using the Walden name mid 70's

Thanks Russell. The second photo, (Walden) is my knife. It's Delrin and has the word "Stainless" on the shield. I didn't know why there was 2 different types of stamps on those but you cleared that right up.

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Mike

[kootenay joe]

Basically: Schrade Cut Co (aka "SCC") ~1905-1946; Schrade Walden 1946-1972; Schrade/N.Y. U.S.A. & Schrade/U.S.A. 1972-2004.
kj

[orvet]

Schrade Walden dropped "Walden" from the tang stamps the June of 1973.

The 825 is a pretty common pattern and I imagine there are multiple variations is the later tang stamp. I think I have a couple myself.

[Mustanger]

I have been interested in collecting the 825 with all the different tang stamps and variations. Here are a few more.

[tongueriver]

It is indeed a great pattern with DOZENS of variations, even more if you count SFOs. Here's one a little fancier than some. If it is still around here someplace it is available.

Here's another one.

[Mustanger]

It is indeed a great pattern with DOZENS of variations, even more if you count SFOs.

I count 4 different tang stamps for the 897UH including the Craftsman. The 95th Anniversary knives are beautiful!

[tongueriver]

The first ones were in bone and did not have "U.S.A." in the stamps. Nor did they have the pattern # on the reverse (pile) side of the tangs.

[kootenay joe]

Calvin the S-W bone 825 is a lovely knife, still in the 'look' of Schrade Cut Co as opposed to the later Schrade-Walden after being conquered by PLASTIC.
Unlike people, the old knives look better than the younger ones.
kj

[KnifeSlinger#81]

Calvin the S-W bone 825 is a lovely knife, still in the 'look' of Schrade Cut Co as opposed to the later Schrade-Walden after being conquered by PLASTIC.
Unlike people, the old knives look better than the younger ones.
kj

You can't substitute peachseed bone with anything, for sure. The swinden bolsters also give them a very different look and they are thicker. The most noticeable difference to me is the very sharp & crisp grinds on the pre swinden knives as opposed to the post swinden knives which look less pronounced.

[kootenay joe]

Paul i think we all agree that the handles and blade grinds for Schrade knives lost out beginning about 1960 in an attempt by Schrade-Walden to meet a price point.
Perhaps this enabled Schrade to stay in business for another 44 years but the cost was the loss of great knives and the introduction of lower end 'ho-hum' knives.
kj

[tongueriver]

At some point I think they tumbled the blades in an abrasive drum like one might do agates to achieve the finish. A far cry from cutlers sitting at a grinding wheel. The old timers produced beautiful knives at great cost to their health. The 825 stainless steel pattern had ancestors going way back to before World War Two in the original Schrade Cutlery Company, but here is one (in the mail) that points up the 1950s progenitor to the 825 in non-stainless steel.

[KnifeSlinger#81]

Paul i think we all agree that the handles and blade grinds for Schrade knives lost out beginning about 1960 in an attempt by Schrade-Walden to meet a price point.
Perhaps this enabled Schrade to stay in business for another 44 years but the cost was the loss of great knives and the introduction of lower end 'ho-hum' knives.
kj

It may have. I still enjoy the post 1960's knives but view them as a different thing.

At some point I think they tumbled the blades in an abrasive drum like one might do agates to achieve the finish. A far cry from cutlers sitting at a grinding wheel. The old timers produced beautiful knives at great cost to their health. The 825 stainless steel pattern had ancestors going way back to before World War Two in the original Schrade Cutlery Company, but here is one (in the mail) that points up the 1950s progenitor to the 825 in non-stainless steel.
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That one is a dandy Cal, I didn't expect it to last for sale very long.

[jxr1197]

that's a thing of beauty right there