What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby tongueriver » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:23 pm

tongueriver wrote:I looked at this ebay listing for days and just could not decide whether it was bone or not from the seller's pics and description. I decided to take a chance. I had heard since back about 2008 that there were a few 1959-1961 bone 8 OTs made for John Primble Hardware and I have watched ever since. This is the only one I have seen. Got lucky.

Edit: The clip blade and possibly the other blades are not the same manufacture as the early 1959-1961 8OTs. I don't know whether they date to the same time period or not but the grinds are very different. I am thinking possibly furnished by Baer's Ulster or Imperial facility? Comments welcome.

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby Shearer » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:37 pm

tongueriver wrote:
tongueriver wrote:I looked at this ebay listing for days and just could not decide whether it was bone or not from the seller's pics and description. I decided to take a chance. I had heard since back about 2008 that there were a few 1959-1961 bone 8 OTs made for John Primble Hardware and I have watched ever since. This is the only one I have seen. Got lucky.

Edit: The clip blade and possibly the other blades are not the same manufacture as the early 1959-1961 8OTs. I don't know whether they date to the same time period or not but the grinds are very different. I am thinking possibly furnished by Baer's Ulster or Imperial facility? Comments welcome.

Cal I have a Schrade Walden Old Timer with the same grind ,delrin handles.
The knife does not have the 8OT on the back.
The Special Edition Jim Bowe ( S.W Cut JB1 ) and the Keen Kutter (S.W Cut K74 ) have the same blades.
Sorry no pictures at the moment as the battery is flat in camera.

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby tongueriver » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:19 pm

The American Eagle series of full size stockman knives (commemorating American Revolutionary War heroes), made for Parker, were made by Imperial and the blades look like this one. By the way, I have that whole set with matching #s, boxes, etc. and they are available (hehheh).

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby Shearer » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:39 pm

tongueriver wrote:The American Eagle series of full size stockman knives (commemorating American Revolutionary War heroes), made for Parker, were made by Imperial and the blades look like this one. By the way, I have that whole set with matching #s, boxes, etc. and they are available (hehheh).

Do you mean this set. :)

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby tongueriver » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:15 am

Shearer wrote:
tongueriver wrote:The American Eagle series of full size stockman knives (commemorating American Revolutionary War heroes), made for Parker, were made by Imperial and the blades look like this one. By the way, I have that whole set with matching #s, boxes, etc. and they are available (hehheh).

Do you mean this set. :)

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yep. ::tu::

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby dweb1897 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:26 pm

Here's some info on the American Eagle set put together by Schradenut
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby jxr1197 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:20 pm

This is more of a one off oddball than a 'rare' knife. It's a BSA Jubilee knife and I'm going to go out on a limb and use the "P" word here (PROTOTYPE) along with a healthy dose of conjecture - cause that's usually a winning formula. ::tu:: The knife that was ultimately made in 1985 was a run of 12,000 pieces on a brushed lockback frame with engraved brass inserts and custom blade etch. Here's a picture of one from a popular auction site:

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Here's the one I have:

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When I saw the 00000 serial number and those 'SS' letters engraved into both inserts my first thought was photo sample or salesman sample. But why would a SFO need that? Then there's the blade etch that reads '1 of 500' instead of 12000. Finally why aren't the inserts brass? They're stainless. So my theory is that the silver looking inserts are representative of sterling silver (which is why it got the 'SS' engraved) and the 1 of 500 means there was a plan to also have a limited 'silver edition' to go along with the standard edition of this knife. That plan fell through and this prototype is all that remains. Like I said - a healthy dose of conjecture. ::shrug::
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby dweb1897 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:52 pm

Pretty good conjecture I would think.
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby dweb1897 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:01 pm

I found this in my files...evidently they made one in sterling and one in 10k gold...click on the pic and it will enlarge and be readable
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby ea42 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:01 pm

Jason, they made three different versions of that knife for Scout's diamond jubilee. 12,000 with brass inserts (your top photo), 500 with sterling silver inserts, and 100 with gold inserts. They were all packaged differently. I shot a couple of quick picks of my silver and gold ones to give you an idea.

The silver insert model was mounted in a wood and pexiglass case, which in turn is mounted in a faux leather hinged box.

The gold model in the fleur de lis was actually mounted on a blue felt frame as well, but I'm missing that part. This one actually belonged to Wally Gardiner, the former president of Schrade. In the 1980's he was actually still a salesman, and secured the order for these knives at a meeting with the Scout leadership in Texas. He got this knife as a thank you gift from Albert Baer, hence the 0000 serial number.

I'm curious as to who might have owned your silver one, the 0000 numbers were often reserved for management. It's definitely not a proto though, it's too far along production wise for that.

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby ScoutKnives » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:13 pm

The production number is odd for sure , I have number 00300
, the inlays are supposed to be silver .



jxr1197 wrote:This is more of a one off oddball than a 'rare' knife. It's a BSA Jubilee knife and I'm going to go out on a limb and use the "P" word here (PROTOTYPE) along with a healthy dose of conjecture - cause that's usually a winning formula. ::tu:: The knife that was ultimately made in 1985 was a run of 12,000 pieces on a brushed lockback frame with engraved brass inserts and custom blade etch. Here's a picture of one from a popular auction site:

orig.jpg

Here's the one I have:

proto1.jpg
proto2.JPG
00000.Jpg

When I saw the 00000 serial number and those 'SS' letters engraved into both inserts my first thought was photo sample or salesman sample. But why would a SFO need that? Then there's the blade etch that reads '1 of 500' instead of 12000. Finally why aren't the inserts brass? They're stainless. So my theory is that the silver looking inserts are representative of sterling silver (which is why it got the 'SS' engraved) and the 1 of 500 means there was a plan to also have a limited 'silver edition' to go along with the standard edition of this knife. That plan fell through and this prototype is all that remains. Like I said - a healthy dose of conjecture. ::shrug::
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby jxr1197 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 pm

HA! I knew if threw the P word around it would all go sideways! Thanks for the additional info.
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby jxr1197 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:27 pm

...now where do I find one of those fleur de lis cases?! :)
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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

Postby tongueriver » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:06 pm

Great knives and great thread! Thanks to all! I saw one of the gold ones on ebay (maybe last year?); the seller was MIGHTY proud of it. :shock: I have the much more common multi-blade scout knife package that is associated with that Boy Scout anniversary and it is nice, also. And available.

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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have

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