856, 804, 836, 880 & 787
856, 804, 836, 880 & 787
Here's a group photo of some more Schrades in the collection now...
Top row, left to right...
856 Cattleman / 804 Mechanics
Middle row...
8364 Peach Seed / 836 (the 8364 shows up in the 1938 Catalog)
Bottom row...
880 Texas pattern / 787 Improved Muskrat
Top row, left to right...
856 Cattleman / 804 Mechanics
Middle row...
8364 Peach Seed / 836 (the 8364 shows up in the 1938 Catalog)
Bottom row...
880 Texas pattern / 787 Improved Muskrat
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Re: 856, 804, 836, 880 & 787
Wow, that 8364 peach seed!
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Hahaha...!!! that was my reaction too, when it showed up. Tomorrow I'll take some close-up photos of it in isolation and post them here.glennbad wrote:Wow, that 8364 peach seed!
Kinda cool seeing a stock 836 in black right next to it. I researched the catalogs and 8364 shows up in 1938 and by 1940 it is not in the catalog. This knife has a tang stamp of.... Schrade over Walden over NY. No other markings. Pinned bolsters and shield. When you look up the 8364 in the 1938 catalog, this knife with 2 small pens and the master clip blade... does not exist in the catalog with it's configuration. Apparently, that is typical Schrade. Too busy making knives and not correct catalogs documenting everything.
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Re: 856, 804, 836, 880 & 787
Here are the 8364 Peach Seed shots from this morning... The tang stamp is...
Schrade
Walden
NY
No other markings.
Schrade
Walden
NY
No other markings.
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Re: 856, 804, 836, 880 & 787
Dave, you take very good pictures. These pics of the PSB Whittler show detail of both the bone (darker) and blade (shiny) which shows you understand lighting. They look professional. Are you a photographer by profession ?
When i get back to my knives in a few daze i will check my Schrade Cut Co and Schrade Walden Whittlers. I think some have the 2 pen blades. I will post back about this.
kj
When i get back to my knives in a few daze i will check my Schrade Cut Co and Schrade Walden Whittlers. I think some have the 2 pen blades. I will post back about this.
kj
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Vintage production knives that do not match exactly the catalog image are common with all brands. I used to assume that all were either fakes or 'lunch bucket' knives. As long as the knife shows no signs of being altered(apart), i now see these variants as regular production knives.
As collectors of vintage knives we want everything to be 'in order' as we think they should be. But back when the knives were being made, i think that likely there was no concern about some knives in a run having say one blade different from the rest of the run, as long as it fit properly. They were being sold to people who used them and who often selected the knife in person at Sears or the hardware store, etc. They might not even notice say 2 pen blades instead of a pen & a clip. Or a person might purposely select the one with 2 pen blades. Point being, the knives would sell even if it did not perfectly match the pattern as shown in a marketing catalog.
It is only we collectors who are fussy and catalog focused.
kj
As collectors of vintage knives we want everything to be 'in order' as we think they should be. But back when the knives were being made, i think that likely there was no concern about some knives in a run having say one blade different from the rest of the run, as long as it fit properly. They were being sold to people who used them and who often selected the knife in person at Sears or the hardware store, etc. They might not even notice say 2 pen blades instead of a pen & a clip. Or a person might purposely select the one with 2 pen blades. Point being, the knives would sell even if it did not perfectly match the pattern as shown in a marketing catalog.
It is only we collectors who are fussy and catalog focused.
kj
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Hi KJ,kootenay joe wrote:Dave, you take very good pictures. These pics of the PSB Whittler show detail of both the bone (darker) and blade (shiny) which shows you understand lighting. They look professional. Are you a photographer by profession ?
When i get back to my knives in a few daze i will check my Schrade Cut Co and Schrade Walden Whittlers. I think some have the 2 pen blades. I will post back about this.
kj
Thanks but no... I just have good equipment and a bit of understanding on how to use it. A Pro would not have done what I did here. I was a bit lazy and didn't want to setup lights and all of that. I just used available morning light and tried to frame the shots using it.
I appreciate any insight you can provide, when you get back! I had heard Schrade did make knives that did not show up in their catalogs. The 8364-3/8 had a sabre clip, small clip & pen blades with black celluloid scales. The S8363-3/8 had a sabre clip, a coping pen and a small pen with stag scales. These are the only two that are really close to being like this knife.
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