856, 804, 836, 880 & 787

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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856, 804, 836, 880 & 787

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Here's a group photo of some more Schrades in the collection now...

Top row, left to right...
856 Cattleman / 804 Mechanics

Middle row...
8364 Peach Seed / 836 (the 8364 shows up in the 1938 Catalog)

Bottom row...
880 Texas pattern / 787 Improved Muskrat
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Wow, that 8364 peach seed! :shock:
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glennbad wrote:Wow, that 8364 peach seed! :shock:
Hahaha...!!! that was my reaction too, when it showed up. Tomorrow I'll take some close-up photos of it in isolation and post them here.

Kinda cool seeing a stock 836 in black right next to it. I researched the catalogs and 8364 shows up in 1938 and by 1940 it is not in the catalog. This knife has a tang stamp of.... Schrade over Walden over NY. No other markings. Pinned bolsters and shield. When you look up the 8364 in the 1938 catalog, this knife with 2 small pens and the master clip blade... does not exist in the catalog with it's configuration. Apparently, that is typical Schrade. Too busy making knives and not correct catalogs documenting everything.
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Here are the 8364 Peach Seed shots from this morning... The tang stamp is...

Schrade
Walden
NY

No other markings.
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Dave, you take very good pictures. These pics of the PSB Whittler show detail of both the bone (darker) and blade (shiny) which shows you understand lighting. They look professional. Are you a photographer by profession ?
When i get back to my knives in a few daze i will check my Schrade Cut Co and Schrade Walden Whittlers. I think some have the 2 pen blades. I will post back about this.
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Vintage production knives that do not match exactly the catalog image are common with all brands. I used to assume that all were either fakes or 'lunch bucket' knives. As long as the knife shows no signs of being altered(apart), i now see these variants as regular production knives.
As collectors of vintage knives we want everything to be 'in order' as we think they should be. But back when the knives were being made, i think that likely there was no concern about some knives in a run having say one blade different from the rest of the run, as long as it fit properly. They were being sold to people who used them and who often selected the knife in person at Sears or the hardware store, etc. They might not even notice say 2 pen blades instead of a pen & a clip. Or a person might purposely select the one with 2 pen blades. Point being, the knives would sell even if it did not perfectly match the pattern as shown in a marketing catalog.
It is only we collectors who are fussy and catalog focused.
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kootenay joe wrote:Dave, you take very good pictures. These pics of the PSB Whittler show detail of both the bone (darker) and blade (shiny) which shows you understand lighting. They look professional. Are you a photographer by profession ?
When i get back to my knives in a few daze i will check my Schrade Cut Co and Schrade Walden Whittlers. I think some have the 2 pen blades. I will post back about this.
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Hi KJ,
Thanks but no... I just have good equipment and a bit of understanding on how to use it. A Pro would not have done what I did here. I was a bit lazy and didn't want to setup lights and all of that. I just used available morning light and tried to frame the shots using it.

I appreciate any insight you can provide, when you get back! I had heard Schrade did make knives that did not show up in their catalogs. The 8364-3/8 had a sabre clip, small clip & pen blades with black celluloid scales. The S8363-3/8 had a sabre clip, a coping pen and a small pen with stag scales. These are the only two that are really close to being like this knife.
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Great Collection. ::tu::
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I got a 787 muskrat back in March. I love it.
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