My latest Schrade

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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Jporter1974 wrote:Thanks for the info on the little knife. It is 3 and 1/8. I need to get me a schrade cut co era reference book, but all I ever have seen is the schrade walden era and up references. Any suggestions? ~Jon
Right here:
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black mamba wrote:Nice knives! I've got one of those #9470 Ulster Craftsman knives in peachseed jigged Bonite. A lovely stockman!

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Your knife can be loosely dated to before 1960 because Craftsman started using the crown logo (like on my knives) in 1960. I'm not a fan of Bonite, but I really like that knife!
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Thank you so much, I will definitely put it to good use ~Jon
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Joe Kious died in an auto accident in 2014. He collaborated with Imperial Schrade on these knives in (I believe) 2001. They were handled in "50 year old bone," and a run of 1000 only. They are odd knives, but rather pleasing. Speaking of collaborations, I am seeking the red-handled version of the Schrade-Barnett knives.
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Schrade Walden 294. Never used, factory grinds—never touched post production.
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That's a right smart one, there! ::tu::
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Good looking Kious, Cal. They are a nice knife. It's been awhile since I've seen a Barnett for sale.
That 294 is sure a good looker Duffer...got to find my drool bucket again.
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Keep Near the Cross.
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Duffer wrote:Schrade Walden 294. Never used, factory grinds—never touched post production.
WOW..... now that is one SWEET knife you have there Lloyd!
CONGRATS!!

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Thanks Mike—much appreciated!!
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This one is not here yet; I want to compare it with my known Schrade CutCo and decide whether this one is a Schrade or an Ulster USA. Either way I love the folding hunters. The tangstamp is Craftsman; that's why I do not yet know who made it. And the Mother of Toilet Seat covers? Well, I am gambling that they have settled down. If it had been a WESTERN I wouldn't touch it unless I was having it re-handled. I do take pains to stable my celluloid knives in a loving environment.
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Calvin, how do you know this Craftsman is as old as Schrade Cut. Co. ?
Looks like a Schrade made knife. I cannot recall ever seeing an Ulster Knife Co. Folding Hunter.
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tongueriver wrote:This one is not here yet; I want to compare it with my known Schrade CutCo and decide whether this one is a Schrade or an Ulster USA. Either way I love the folding hunters. The tangstamp is Craftsman; that's why I do not yet know who made it. And the Mother of Toilet Seat covers? Well, I am gambling that they have settled down. If it had been a WESTERN I wouldn't touch it unless I was having it re-handled. I do take pains to stable my celluloid knives in a loving environment.
From that era I think it would be a toss up between Ulster and Camillus, not Schrade. I'm guessing Ulster - here's an Ulster fished out of a google search:
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Is the above an "Ulster Knife Co.' or a post 1941 "Ulster Knife" ? I was referring to Ulster Knife Co. owned by Dwight Devine. When he sold to Albert Baer in 1941 the company became "Ulster Knife" and the knives were no longer as high quality as they had been. Still very good but not quite the same.
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kootenay joe wrote:Is the above an "Ulster Knife Co.' or a post 1941 "Ulster Knife" ? I was referring to Ulster Knife Co. owned by Dwight Devine. When he sold to Albert Baer in 1941 the company became "Ulster Knife" and the knives were no longer as high quality as they had been. Still very good but not quite the same.
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That's a post '41 Ulster in the pic. There was no cross over, the first Craftsman appeared in 1941 - same year as the ownership change at Ulster and I don't believe Divine's Ulster ever made knives for Sears, Craftsman or otherwise. Unless I'm wrong...it happens.
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Yes you are correct Albert Baer brought the Sears contract to Camillus. He would not have shared it with Ulster until he owned Ulster.
How does one date Calvin's Craftsman Folding Hunter ? From before or after WW II ? If from after then likely not a Schrade Cut Co because it became Schrade-Walden in 1946-47.
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I will compare it to two Schrade CutCos and a (pre-225) Schrade Walden, when I get it.
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Craftsman 9541, aka, Ulster #50
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Mustanger, that is a beauty for sure. For a time I looked closely at knives made for sears as i was collecting uncle Henry knives. The way it was explained to me is Albert B was in charge of all knives being sold for sears and he decided which companies would supply knives to sears. In this roll he also had control of how when and where the knives were displayed. His daughter owned camillius so that was an easy one. It’s likely Ulster was an approved vendor even before he took over the company. He maintained a firm grip over the sears account for many years. I do not recall exactly when though.
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JAMESC41001 wrote:Mustanger, that is a beauty for sure. For a time I looked closely at knives made for sears as i was collecting uncle Henry knives. The way it was explained to me is Albert B was in charge of all knives being sold for sears and he decided which companies would supply knives to sears. In this roll he also had control of how when and where the knives were displayed. His daughter owned camillius so that was an easy one. It’s likely Ulster was an approved vendor even before he took over the company. He maintained a firm grip over the sears account for many years. I do not recall exactly when though.
That relationship with Sears was interesting for sure. I have Craftsman knives made by Schrade Walden, Imperial Schrade, Imperial, Ulster and Camillus. I never intended to collect Craftsman knives but it's sometimes easier to land a nice Craftsman knife in the Schrade family patterns I like than it is to find nice factory branded copies. Now I like em almost as good. K-Joe had an interesting comment about Sears and Ulster at the top of this page. I don't know.
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I agree with you, a good sears knife can be just as good as the makers mark. Wilbert supplies knives to sears that were produced by Nspanoch. I don’t own one but sure wish I did. Also I have a craftsman 2OT that is even scarcer then the Schrade.
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Michael Little (Codger), who has been a meticulous Schrade researcher, apparently found good evidence that many Schrade introductions were given to Sears FIRST, before further runs, and possibly later less stringent qc.
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Yes I have read some of codgers great research. It is a tremendous help and accurate. I believe the 153 golden spike was made for Sears first. Studying sears knives actually helps understand some aspects of what was going on and when.
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Some of Schrade's contribution to the Sears lineup are not well-known. How about a 165OT... but with a hidden tang? AND a genuine elephant hide sheath?
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tongueriver wrote:Michael Little (Codger), who has been a meticulous Schrade researcher, apparently found good evidence that many Schrade introductions were given to Sears FIRST, before further runs, and possibly later less stringent qc.
That is an interesting little factoid. That Schrade may have used Sears for test marketing, and/or, promotion for new knives. Smart!
Very nice 165OT! I have wondered why a lot of the Craftsman knives had tang stamps that are upside down to everyone else?

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Good point about the Craftsman knives being more rare. Especially your 2OT. I'm also thinking about your Staglon skinning knife too. There are a couple that I can think of that I've only seen one picture of and never heard talked about. That coupled with what Cal posted makes a guy want to pay more attention to them for rare Schrade family knives.

I'm just posting this picture I found online somewhere (I think ebay completeted listings) as an example of "where the heck did that come from?". It has a linerlock. Only one I've seen and I'm wanting one bad. lol
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