Camillus 72 Clones

[Papa Bones]

Jerry, up until just recently, when I was checking ebay everyday, I would come across at least one a month and sometimes several. All different handle materials etc. I know that it seems cyclical as sometime there might be short line bone handles one month and then not see any for a while. Again, with a lot of things on ebay it seems cyclical.

I agree. But so far I guess I've just not looked at the right times. Because I've never seen a Short Line Bone Handle 72 listed as of yet. But.... if it was easy, it wouldn't be fun.

Smitty, that's a GREAT "72" variation.
You've been on quite a successful "hunting" trip for awhile now.
Keep it up!

Appreciate it Skip.

[jerryd6818]

I don't know if Camillus was making the first swell center carpenters whittler for Sears, but in 1940 and 1941 the STA-SHARP Carver sold by Sears was almost this configuration of blades. But in 1942 the pattern changed to the traditional whittler pattern similar to the CASE XX 08 Whittler.
The STA-SHARP Carver was a three blade swell center Carver / Whittler that was 3-5/8" closed and had a Clip Master blade, pen secondary, and a Coping Blade on the left side of the frame. It had a STA-SHARP blade etch with WOOD Carver under the word STA-SHARP. The Pattern number was 9511. I've been going through the older Sears Catalogs researching the different Pattern Whittlers / Carvers that were offered. The Craftsman 9494 didn't appear in Sears Catalogs until 1952.
STA Sharp Carver.jpg

Exactly what I've been looking for. Proof positive that the Camillus 72 pattern did exist before WWII. Thank you very much.

[Ripster]

I don't know if Camillus was making the first swell center carpenters whittler for Sears, but in 1940 and 1941 the STA-SHARP Carver sold by Sears was almost this configuration of blades. But in 1942 the pattern changed to the traditional whittler pattern similar to the CASE XX 08 Whittler.
The STA-SHARP Carver was a three blade swell center Carver / Whittler that was 3-5/8" closed and had a Clip Master blade, pen secondary, and a Coping Blade on the left side of the frame. It had a STA-SHARP blade etch with WOOD Carver under the word STA-SHARP. The Pattern number was 9511. I've been going through the older Sears Catalogs researching the different Pattern Whittlers / Carvers that were offered. The Craftsman 9494 didn't appear in Sears Catalogs until 1952.
STA Sharp Carver.jpg

Exactly what I've been looking for. Proof positive that the Camillus 72 pattern did exist before WWII. Thank you very muxh.

Smitty great info . Jerry ,you the man . Sure is good to have proof in writing. Them old articles are great .

[Shearer]

Here is a couple of 1047 I was asked to post here.
The first two pictures are the same knife
The last picture is one without the etch
These knives were collected in 2013 when JerryD and myself were full time collecting them.

Grant

[jerryd6818]

Grant, I know you were asked to post it here but in my opinion it is not a clone and doesn't belong here. IMHO just because it's a Scout knife doesn't make it a clone. It's still a Camillus. Different strokes for different folks.

[TPK]

Here is a couple of 1047 I was asked to post here.
The first two pictures are the same knife
The last picture is one without the etch
These knives were collected in 2013 when JerryD and myself were full time collecting them.

Grant

Those are absolutely beautiful knives Grant!

[Shearer]

Grant, I know you were asked to post it here but in my opinion it is not a clone and doesn't belong here. IMHO just because it's a Scout knife doesn't make it a clone. It's still a Camillus. Different strokes for different folks.

Jerry I would have to agree with you it not a clone. It has the Camillus stamp on it.
It would only a be a slight variation in that it's missing the 72 stamp.
This is like saying it's a whittler.( we known Camillus called it a carpenter whittler ) Everyone has their own opinion.
To say something is a clone is would have to be a exact copy.
Would that have to include the tang stamp.( so ever 72 made in a day is a clone because it a copy of the first one made ).
I'm going to bed now. I have just over used my brain.
Hope you have a good day.

Grant

[Shearer]

Here is a couple of 1047 I was asked to post here.
The first two pictures are the same knife
The last picture is one without the etch
These knives were collected in 2013 when JerryD and myself were full time collecting them.

Grant

Those are absolutely beautiful knives Grant!

Thanks Tom .I've had them for several years and still like getting them out to look at them and clean and oil them.

Grant

[New_Windsor_NY]

Here.....

Beautiful variations Grant.

[doglegg]

Papa Bones, great information on the Sta Sharp in the early Sear catalogue.

Shearer, thanks for the pic. It is knice to see one of those in what ever thread. Wonderful knives.

[Ripster]

Papa Bones, great information on the Sta Sharp in the early Sear catalogue.

Shearer, thanks for the pic. It is knice to see one of those in what ever thread. Wonderful knives.

Agree on all Accounts ,great info ,great pics .
This is a pretty good bunch of folks here .
JerryD and Shearer,you fellas sure been at the 72s a long time and appreciate what you bring to the forum. It’s all of us that makes the forum ,but we need good individuals,and there’s a bunch of them here ,especially over here in Camillus Country

[Papa Bones]

Here is a couple of 1047 I was asked to post here.
The first two pictures are the same knife
The last picture is one without the etch
These knives were collected in 2013 when JerryD and myself were full time collecting them.

Grant

A Rose by any other name....... Whatever someone wants to call them, they are awesome looking!! Glad you posted them Grant.

[Ripster]

Here’s a couple that I enjoy having and am posting here .
The Stanley Sl 6 ,bought this from fellow member. Nice tight knife.
The 22 LR 6 1977 w/ Rimfire etch ! This one am posting here as a gray area knife. Did post it in the 72 thread ,and will leave it at that . Got it off the bay and there was a lot of bidding on this one. Really like this one and been thinking about getting bone put on it and carrying it !
That’s it from my little corner of the valley here . Take care,catch you later

[doglegg]

Would love to see it in bone.

[New_Windsor_NY]

Here’s.....

Two VERY nice variations, JP.

[New_Windsor_NY]

This afternoon, I added this CAMILLUS 72 variation to my collection. It is a CAMILLUS 1047, 3 blade, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, Scout "whittler" pocket knife. It's missing the shield. It needed some minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

[Papa Bones]

This afternoon, I added this CAMILLUS 72 variation to my collection. It is a CAMILLUS 1047, 3 blade, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, Scout "whittler" pocket knife. It's missing the shield. It needed some minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Nice find!

[New_Windsor_NY]

Nice.....

Thank you Smitty.
I was waiting for a "1047" to come along without a shield.
I want to put my own "shield" on it. The bottom of a spent
9MM or .357 cartridge fits perfectly. I'm kicking around other
ideas also.

[Papa Bones]

Nice.....

Thank you Smitty.
I was waiting for a "1047" to come along without a shield.
I want to put my own "shield" on it. The bottom of a spent
9MM or .357 cartridge fits perfectly. I'm kicking around other
ideas also.

Sounds like a plan.

[Papa Bones]

Received this one in the mail yesterday. Another addition to my 72 Clone Family. It was a El Cheapo at $15 and needed some cleaning. It's a Powr-Kraft 84-11. Had to do the usual warm oil soak, then cleaned the blades. The Master Clip has Weak Snap, which is an improvement, it had none when I got it. The secondary small clip and coping blade have great snap. The handles were oxidized, but brushed them with an old tooth brush while in the warm mineral oil soak, and again with dishwashing liquid and warm water before cleaning up the blades. I think it turned out well, and will be a good addition to my EDC 72 clones. Below are some before and after photos.

Before

AFTER

[doglegg]

Great pick up Papa Bones. You breathed some life into the old girl.

[New_Windsor_NY]

Received.....

TERRIFIC job, Smitty!!
A nice addition to your variation/clone collection.

[Papa Bones]

Great pick up Papa Bones. You breathed some life into the old girl.

Appreciate it Floyd.

TERRIFIC job, Smitty!!
A nice addition to your variation/clone collection.

Thank You Skip.

[Ripster]

Received this one in the mail yesterday. Another addition to my 72 Clone Family. It was a El Cheapo at $15 and needed some cleaning. It's a Powr-Kraft 84-11. Had to do the usual warm oil soak, then cleaned the blades. The Master Clip has Weak Snap, which is an improvement, it had none when I got it. The secondary small clip and coping blade have great snap. The handles were oxidized, but brushed them with an old tooth brush while in the warm mineral oil soak, and again with dishwashing liquid and warm water before cleaning up the blades. I think it turned out well, and will be a good addition to my EDC 72 clones. Below are some before and after photos.

Before
PK org_a.jpg

AFTER
POWR_KRAFT 84_11_a.JPG
POWR_KRAFT 84_11_b.JPG
POWR_KRAFT 84_11_c.JPG

You done well Smitty ,cleaned up nice,! And you stole it at that price ,good for you
That’s a good one to get,they’re getting harder to find. Great addition to your clones

[Papa Bones]

You done well Smitty ,cleaned up nice,! And you stole it at that price ,good for you
That’s a good one to get,they’re getting harder to find. Great addition to your clones

Thanks JP. Yep, your right. Plus, I couldn't resist a 72 clone