Camp knife scale material ????

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Camp knife scale material ????

Postby Meridian_Mike » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:16 pm

Hello all,
I just made a deal on this Camillus camp knife. It looks to be a 1941 to 1946 era knife from what I can see on the tang stamp.
Y'all got any idea what these scales might be made of? They look pretty dog gone good for the age.

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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby Meridian_Mike » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:07 pm

Well, I was just interested by how rough looking and deep the jigging pattern is. Doesn't look like stag, sort of looks plastic (delrin?)
Anyway, just thought maybe you Camillus guys could throw a bone my way.

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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby whitebuffalo58 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:10 pm

There were so many different mid-century plastics being developed, that it would be hard to know exactly which one this is. It's not celluloid, but too early for Delrin. My personal opinion would be Bakelite. It's harder then many plastics and doesn't tend to shrink like the other mid-century plastics. Camillus and Utica both used it for a few years, but then it just seemed to go away.

Here's a couple of Camillus built and one Kutmaster toothpick in that same material. I like it, not sure why they quit using it, it's far better then the shrinky dink plastics.

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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby carrmillus » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:33 pm

.....that looks like the 1914-1941 4 line tang stamp, but I'm not much on plastic types from that period???? .... ::shrug:: ...................

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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby Meridian_Mike » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:54 am

whitebuffalo58 wrote:There were so many different mid-century plastics being developed, that it would be hard to know exactly which one this is. It's not celluloid, but too early for Delrin. My personal opinion would be Bakelite. It's harder then many plastics and doesn't tend to shrink like the other mid-century plastics. Camillus and Utica both used it for a few years, but then it just seemed to go away.

I like it, not sure why they quit using it, it's far better then the shrinky dink plastics.

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Thanks WB...
Yep, too early for delrin.... Thanks for pointing that out.
I was figuring some sort of plastic like material. That is why I ask. Looking at the close up of the tang you can see how smooth and dull the finish on the material is. SO... from that I figured it wasn't horn or stag.

I know one thing.... I love the deep jigging on mine and on your 3.


carrmillus wrote:.....that looks like the 1914-1941 4 line tang stamp, but I'm not much on plastic types from that period???? .... ::shrug:: ...................


Good eye on the tang stamp Carrmillus. And I sure don't know squat about the early plastics. I know some will shrink up really bad and it looks like the plastic on mine is pretty stable.

Thanks guys!
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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby philco » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:07 pm

I think I've heard that handle material referred to as "Rough Black". I don't have any idea what it's made from.
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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby carrmillus » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:43 pm

.......it looks like the same material that was on my cub scout knife, only it was dark blue(sure wish I still had it!!)..... ::tu:: ............................

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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby ScoutKnives » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:22 pm

Like Phil said I’ve always called it rough black composition .
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Re: Camp knife scale material ????

Postby Meridian_Mike » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:47 pm

ScoutKnives wrote:Like Phil said I’ve always called it rough black composition .


Sho 'nuff... sounds like a winner to me.

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