Callimus 21 peanut

[jerryd6818]

Vit, I've never seen you post anything that wasn't pristine. To echo d-boy, very nice indeed.

[deltaboy]

I am glad many folks don't really collect them!

[jerryd6818]

I am glad many folks don't really collect them!

They're like the 14, 18, 23, 29, 35 and a few others, there's not very much variety there for collecting. I have 7 of the 14's but there's really only 4 variations. The dad gummed things are like potato chips. Ya just can't stop with one.

[deltaboy]

Thanks I rarely saw this brand growing up. We had Imperial, Schrade, Case, Buck and Queen.

[deltaboy]

Love my 21 Callimus!

[deltaboy]

They like there Stockman cause they take a wicked edge!

[deltaboy]

Little buggers are cute!

[Corso]

As a peanut nut one of these is definitely on my wish list

[deltaboy]

As a peanut nut one of these is definitely on my wish list

Hit eBay they are out there!

[Edgewise]

You know, I only just noticed the title. I wonder if anyone else has.

[garddogg56]

Spellcheck

[Edgewise]

Hey, don't let a spell check stop this thread. "Callimus" is worthy of any Mark Twain fan.
Those are very nice classics and not too many around, it seems.
The few on the bay are rather worn out and I was looking forward to a longer thread.
I looked up pyroxylin and it's an unstable celluloid type of plastic which I avoid these days.
I notice that these knives are not called 'peanut' by the manufacturer and I'm guessing the word was first linked to Case.

[Edgewise]

Why was the #21 selected for this topic over any other peanut sized Camillus? Is it the best?

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

In the 1972 Camillus catalog, the #21 & #22 were called a "Pony Jack".

I don't know whether Case was the first to use the term "Peanut" for a small serpentine jack.

[Edgewise]

Was there a single blade Camillus pony jack? All there seems to remain is the yellow-jacket. Maybe that's a play on the word jack.

[Vit_213]

Was there a single blade Camillus pony jack? All there seems to remain is the yellow-jacket. Maybe that's a play on the word jack.

#710S, #710BL, #710C and #710Y

[Edgewise]

Thanks Vit, nice looking knives. Those are called 'peanut' and no longer 'pony jack'.
Do you know when your 21 was made or when Camillus stopped making the U.S.A. peanut?

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

If you look at this 1994 Catalog, you will see *both* - the #21 is still shown as a "Pony Jack" and the #710Y is shown as a "Peanut Pen".

http://www.collectors-of-camillus.us/Ca ... -CAT4s.pdf

However, by the 1996 catalog, the #21 is no longer listed.

http://www.collectors-of-camillus.us/Ca ... talogs.pdf

[Edgewise]

Thanks TwoFlowersLuggage, you guys really know how to dig up info.
So far all the peanuts on this thread, old and new seem to have three visible pins but I remember seeing a picture of a 21 with only the center pin showing.
Interestingly my own 77 and 72 both only show the center pin. Any easily available explanation or am I being too picky?

[jerryd6818]

Interestingly my own 77 and 72 both only show the center pin. Any easily available explanation or am I being too picky?

Easily explainable. In about 1976 they stopped pinning the Delrin handles on and went to a post formed in the handle that was inserted through a hole in the liner. You can see the end of the post if you look at the liner down in the blade well.

[Edgewise]

I've been trying not to be lazy and doing my own research but without success.
If the handle pins were replaced by liner posts back in 1976, why was such a cost saving measure not applied to the peanuts in Vit's picture as well as later delrin handles?

[jerryd6818]

[orvet]

Thanks I rarely saw this brand growing up. We had Imperial, Schrade, Case, Buck and Queen.

Ironically Camillus made knives for Imperial, Schrade, Case and most of the black handled Bucks were made by Camillus.

You probably saw plenty of them, just ones Camillus made for other brands.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

Just to add to your confusion - - here's a Remington single-blade peanut that was certainly made by Camillus, probably in the 1990s or early 2000s - and probably at the the same time the 710 was being made. It has a single pin showing, and you can see the outline of the pivot pin on the front bolster.

I have a theory - pure conjecture, not based on ANY evidence - Camillus was one of largest contract manufacturers in the US knife industry. I have no doubt that if a customer said "I want 3 brass pins showing", then that's what Camillus would build. If the customer said "I don't care how many pins are showing, just give me the lowest cost", then Camillus would salute smartly and march to the right. Now, if you are a contract manufacturer, and your customer is paying to have an assembly line set-up, then why not produce some of your own brand knives after the contract run has been completed? Change the blades to Camillus and maybe put on a slightly different handle (or not, see above), and you can have a Camillus 21 instead of a Remington Peanut. Or, if another contract is being run that requires 3 pins, then make a run of Camillus knives 710 after that order.

Just a guess...

[Edgewise]

I guess that theory is good enough for me.
There seems to be no limit to the trails leading through the maze of knife collecting.