Camillus Lok-Rancher

The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
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Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby knifeaholic » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:13 pm

I have long thought this to be an unusual Camillus pattern because of the unique locking mechanism. I recall when Camillus introduced this knife in the 1970's. This is the first one that I have ever owned - seems like they are somewhat scarce. Maybe the Camillus collectors can chime in as to how common they are.

Its a big knife at 4-1/4" closed. I originally had thought that all of these Camillus "India Stag" knives were stainless, but in looking at the old 1972 catalog, looks like all but the fish knife were carbon steel.
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby jerryd6818 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:56 pm

The "Indian Stag" handles were introduced about 1970 or so, then in 1976 Camillus introduced the #7 "Cam-Lok" (4¾" closed) and the #88 "Lok-Rancher" stockman (4¼" closed). They were still in the 1984 catalog but gone by 1990.

I don't think they went over very well because they're not real common today and when you do see one for sale, even if it's not listed by "ditwtexas", folks are asking well north of $100 for the Cam-Lok. Same-same Lok-Rancher.
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby knifeaholic » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:13 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:The "Indian Stag" handles were introduced about 1970 or so, then in 1976 Camillus introduced the #7 "Cam-Lok" (4¾" closed) and the #88 "Lok-Rancher" stockman (4¼" closed). They were still in the 1984 catalog but gone by 1990.

I don't think they went over very well because they're not real common today and when you do see one for sale, even if it's not listed by "ditwtexas", folks are asking well north of $100 for the Cam-Lok. Same-same Lok-Rancher.


Thanks Jerry for the info. Based on the tang stamp, can you tell anything about the year made for mine?
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby edge213 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:48 pm

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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby jerryd6818 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:44 pm

knifeaholic wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:The "Indian Stag" handles were introduced about 1970 or so, then in 1976 Camillus introduced the #7 "Cam-Lok" (4¾" closed) and the #88 "Lok-Rancher" stockman (4¼" closed). They were still in the 1984 catalog but gone by 1990.

I don't think they went over very well because they're not real common today and when you do see one for sale, even if it's not listed by "ditwtexas", folks are asking well north of $100 for the Cam-Lok. Same-same Lok-Rancher.


Thanks Jerry for the info. Based on the tang stamp, can you tell anything about the year made for mine?

It's that 197x-198x stamp. That's about as close as anyone can get using the tang stamp so same as the years for the knife. Late '70s to mid to late '80s.
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby Vit_213 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:36 pm

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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby deltaboy » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:24 am

Way too Cool ! ::tu::
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby Colonel26 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:02 am

Very cool. I have a 78 (3 7/8 inches) and and two 89 patterns (same as yours without the lock). All of them are non stainless. And the steel is every bit as good as the old XX era CASE steel that I love so much.
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby carrmillus » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:44 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:The "Indian Stag" handles were introduced about 1970 or so, then in 1976 Camillus introduced the #7 "Cam-Lok" (4¾" closed) and the #88 "Lok-Rancher" stockman (4¼" closed). They were still in the 1984 catalog but gone by 1990.

I don't think they went over very well because they're not real common today and when you do see one for sale, even if it's not listed by "ditwtexas", folks are asking well north of $100 for the Cam-Lok. Same-same Lok-Rancher.

........jerry, I've got a #89 stockman(staglon) that I'm sure my granddad gave me(he died in 1952), it has the short line stamp and is stamped "89" on the pile side of the master.the staglon on this one is much darker than the later ones...... ::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::shrug:: .................

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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby jerryd6818 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:21 pm

carrmillus wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:The "Indian Stag" handles were introduced about 1970 or so, then in 1976 Camillus introduced the #7 "Cam-Lok" (4¾" closed) and the #88 "Lok-Rancher" stockman (4¼" closed). They were still in the 1984 catalog but gone by 1990.

........jerry, I've got a #89 stockman(staglon) that I'm sure my granddad gave me(he died in 1952), it has the short line stamp and is stamped "89" on the pile side of the master.the staglon on this one is much darker than the later ones...... ::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::shrug:: .................


Your memory machine done broke down on ya Tommy. Staglon was a Schrade trade name. Camillus called that "Indian Stag" (introduced about 1970) and it was Delrin which wasn't available until after the Dupont factory in West Virginia opened in 1960.

The 89 was introduced as part of the new Prestige line in the Camillus 1973-1974 catalog shown below. #89 is at the bottom of the page.
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby carrmillus » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:28 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:The "Indian Stag" handles were introduced about 1970 or so, then in 1976 Camillus introduced the #7 "Cam-Lok" (4¾" closed) and the #88 "Lok-Rancher" stockman (4¼" closed). They were still in the 1984 catalog but gone by 1990.

........jerry, I've got a #89 stockman(staglon) that I'm sure my granddad gave me(he died in 1952), it has the short line stamp and is stamped "89" on the pile side of the master.the staglon on this one is much darker than the later ones...... ::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::shrug:: .................


Your memory machine done broke down on ya Tommy. Staglon was a Schrade trade name. Camillus called that "Indian Stag" (introduced about 1970) and it was Delrin which wasn't available until after the Dupont factory in West Virginia opened in 1960.

The 89 was introduced as part of the new Prestige line in the Camillus 1973-1974 catalog shown below. #89 is at the bottom of the page.

......I meant "indian stag", jerry.....what I can't figure out is that handle mat'l and the short-line stamp on a knife that was given to me in 1952??............... ::facepalm:: .......................

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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby jerryd6818 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:42 pm

carrmillus wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:........jerry, I've got a #89 stockman(staglon) that I'm sure my granddad gave me(he died in 1952), it has the short line stamp and is stamped "89" on the pile side of the master.the staglon on this one is much darker than the later ones...... ::shrug:: ::shrug:: ::shrug:: .................


Your memory machine done broke down on ya Tommy. Staglon was a Schrade trade name. Camillus called that "Indian Stag" (introduced about 1970) and it was Delrin which wasn't available until after the Dupont factory in West Virginia opened in 1960.

The 89 was introduced as part of the new Prestige line in the Camillus 1973-1974 catalog shown below. #89 is at the bottom of the page.

......I meant "indian stag", jerry.....what I can't figure out is that handle mat'l and the short-line stamp on a knife that was given to me in 1952??............... ::facepalm:: .......................

And it's stamped 89 on the pile side of the tang with a short line stamp on the mark side? Tis indeed a conundrum.
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby carrmillus » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:59 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:
Your memory machine done broke down on ya Tommy. Staglon was a Schrade trade name. Camillus called that "Indian Stag" (introduced about 1970) and it was Delrin which wasn't available until after the Dupont factory in West Virginia opened in 1960.

The 89 was introduced as part of the new Prestige line in the Camillus 1973-1974 catalog shown below. #89 is at the bottom of the page.

......I meant "indian stag", jerry.....what I can't figure out is that handle mat'l and the short-line stamp on a knife that was given to me in 1952??............... ::facepalm:: .......................

And it's stamped 89 on the pile side of the tang with a short line stamp on the mark side? Tis indeed a conundrum.

........correct!!!, my grandfather gave it to me in 1952, about a month before he died, and it's always been one of my favorites. I carried it the whole time I was in the army, it's been all over!!.......... ::tu:: ......................

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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby jerryd6818 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:31 pm

::shrug::
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Re: Camillus Lok-Rancher

Postby deltaboy » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:05 pm

Great knife ::tu::
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