camillus #72

The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
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Here are 3 #72 pattern yellow Delrin handled knives. I bought them individually on ebay all after the 2007 closure. Note that one has a slightly shorter match striker pull and it is the only one marked "72" on back tang.
Are these likely from before 2007 ? or ones that were assembled from parts after closure ? if a difference can be seen ??
Also "Ole Smoky" Jigged Delrin or bone ?
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kootenay joe wrote:Here are 3 #72 pattern yellow Delrin handled knives. I bought them individually on ebay all after the 2007 closure. Note that one has a slightly shorter match striker pull and it is the only one marked "72" on back tang.
Are these likely from before 2007 ? or ones that were assembled from parts after closure ? if a difference can be seen ??
Also "Ole Smoky" Jigged Delrin or bone ?
Except for the blade etch, both of my Yello-Jaket 72s are dead ringers for your top one, with the the swedging and the "72" marked on the pile side of the blade. Mine have the standard "Yello-Jaket" etch on them, though it is very faded on my user knife.

I believe the Ole Smoky is bone. I've been on the hunt for one.
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The Ole Smoky has bone handles.
The two Yellow Jack's without number might be scout blades
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Thanks for the help. What are "scout blades" ? a word for any substitute blade ?
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kootenay joe wrote:Thanks for the help. What are "scout blades" ? a word for any substitute blade ?
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The 72 scout is listed as a 1047.
The scout blades do not have a number stamped on them.

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O.K. i get it. The blade for the Boy Scout version of this knife. Thanks.
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The Missing Link?
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That's interesting, a 72 Sword Brand, new to me. Always amazed at the different ones that show up. Greg, am I seeing 4 small pins at the corners of the handles? This ought to put Jerry into full search mode, shoot, he may have one laid back somewhere!
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treefarmer wrote:That's interesting, a 72 Sword Brand, new to me. Always amazed at the different ones that show up. Greg, am I seeing 4 small pins at the corners of the handles? This ought to put Jerry into full search mode, shoot, he may have one laid back somewhere!
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Phillip Jerryd and I have already consulted on this one and he does indeed have one marked high carbon steel, but these have thrown a bit of a curve into the 72 time line . It may require some adjustment. :D
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::shrug::

Sure would like to get my hands on some catalogs from the 1930s. Especially the late '30s. (37, 38, 39)
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...I can't see any pins at the ends of the handles.......... ::shrug:: ...........
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...I do have one #72 with the pen blade paired with the primary blade that has "sword brand" mark on the primary blade, 4 line stamp on the pile side, it also has worked liners, 4 pointed oval shield and smooth caramel bone!!..... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ..............
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Tommy, this is one of those times when we really need pictures.
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.....................jerry, I sure wish I knew how, next time one of my kids comes over to eat, i'll see if I can get them to make and post some pictures...we get our power from TVA, and if I tried, I would short out everything between here and PICKWICK DAM!!!............ ::facepalm:: ...................
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Craftsman 9529. Flat grind master, paired with pen blade. Tang marked "Forged/USA", bone handles.
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kootenay joe wrote:Craftsman 9529. Flat grind master, paired with pen blade. Tang marked "Forged/USA", bone handles.
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Nice knife
It has the same set up as first generation Camillus with different nail nick.
The Schrade or Imperial ones were 9494.

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Quote: "It has the same set up as first generation Camillus"
Yes but it lacks the bilateral saber grind. I do think it is from the same time as the early 72's which i think is just after WW II ?
This knife supposedly came from a display in the Camillus factory lobby.
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Well I thought I was going to be busy today but that didn't pan out, so I'm sitting at the computer going back through some of my favorite old threads of which this happens to be one. I notice on page 8 that Jerryd has provided a rough draft of a 72 time line. I quickly made a copy of it and scurried off to the knife room to compare my prizes to the list and discovered that I am still lacking quite a few. I do think that we could add a new entry to the list though. There seem to be enough of these out there,even though they are a mystery, that we could add them as a must have category. This makes my second one and I know of a few others. The 1047 Boy Scout with Double sided Sabre ground Master. I nabbed this one last night.
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Long line with saber grind on both sides.
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Yes indeed Jerryd! I think we have seen enough of these to classify it as a must have knife for 72 collectors even though we don't really know why it exists. :D
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............hhhmmmmm!!!........... ::hmm::...........just noticed that all of my split-backs are flat ground on both sides!!....................... ::hmm:: ...........
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jerryd6818 wrote:Long line with saber grind on both sides.

Camillus 1047 Scout - '60-'76 1st Class Shield - Open Mark.JPG
Hey Jerryd I have one of those. I am not sure what the fat and saturated fat content is in mine.
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I'm dazed and confused. What happened to that nice looking McGrew Hillbilly Classic that was posted?


And Greg, what do you mean by "why does it exist?" Are you talking about the incongruity of the main being saber ground on both sides vs the long line tang stamp?
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jerryd6818 wrote:I'm dazed and confused. What happened to that nice looking McGrew Hillbilly Classic that was posted?


And Greg, what do you mean by "why does it exist?" Are you talking about the incongruity of the main being saber ground on both sides vs the long line tang stamp?
I picked up its sister, its I posted over on 'mail' Looking at your boy scout 72 pattern above in the back ground I saw the listing of fat and saturated fat I figured it had to be for the knife. Also on the McGrew I just posted the blade looks rough but it is just my weakness in picture takin and glare.
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jerryd6818 wrote:
And Greg, what do you mean by "why does it exist?" Are you talking about the incongruity of the main being saber ground on both sides vs the long line tang stamp?
Yes Jerryd! It makes no sense to discontinue the double side from the 72 then introduce the 1047 with bone handles and a single side sabre and then switch to comp handles with a double side sabre grind. Another little tidbit that I have noticed is there is no swedge on the pile side of these 1047 double sided sabre blades. A mystery that just confounds me ::tease::
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