camillus #72

The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
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Re: camillus #72

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zed6309 wrote:I can see me collecting a few of these as users, the coping blade sharpened up really nicely and has become my new whittling pocket knife, what kind of price do they go for?
You could choose something a whole lot worse to spend your hard earned money on. Price is all over the place. I've bought them for as little as $10 and have paid as much as $40+. As with everything else, it all depends.............

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Re: camillus #72

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Thanks Jerry ,I would love a project one and make some scales for it ::tu:: yes mate still at the same address ::tu:: The #72 stamp is very hard to read on mine, is this the to the polished blades on these ? I can barely read it and have to catch it in the right light ::tu::
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Re: camillus #72

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Let me see what I have.

Hmm. I have no problem reading the tang stamp. Are you sure your eyes aren't going bad? ::poke::
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Cheers Jerry ::tu:: and yes my eye sight is bad but the main tang stamp is clear but the oposite sides stamp #72 is very faint :| it's there though ::tu::
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Re: camillus #72

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This has it's own thread but it also belongs here. This custom 72 clone (Powr-Kraft 84-11) was a collaboration between Tom Williams (CAMCO) (deceased long time Camillus employee and Camillus historian) and Dale (orvet). Tom donated the hardware and Dale donated the craftsmanship. I chose exterior ram's horn for the covers and it is out-(USMC expletive)-standing. Deep appreciation to both of those fine gentlemen.
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You guys have affected me such that now i don't like to let a good 72 go too low. Today i saw a nice 72, long underline, Delrin, one side saber so i bid not expecting to win, but i did, for $27. Appears unused. O.K. so nothing extra special about this one but surely $27 is a bit on the low side ?
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Re: camillus #72

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I would have paid in the $30's but then I'm a skinflint. The 72's go for less than you would expect. That's a good buy for one in that condition but not a spectacular, "call a cop" great buy. It has to be something "oh my God" extra special before I'll pay in excess of $40.

By the way. There's a bone handle, 1990's Ole Smoky on eBay right now. It goes out tonight and the bid is sock top low at this point.
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I can't find 'Ole Smokey', maybe it has ended ?
1715 hrs PST now.
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Ooops, found it. it's Delrin is it not ??, flat grind, is it special in some way ?
I do prefer the older jigged Delrin as on knife i just won compared with the more recent pale Delrin that has no jigging near the bolsters.
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As I said in my previous post, it's bone. One of three variations they made in the '90s that have bone handles. This one was SFO for SMKW.
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With those listing pictures handles could be bubblegum. The full flat grind is why i thought Delrin. But good to know it is a bone in hiding.
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Edit to add: Thank you GURU 72 ! For $20.50 i am the proud owner of 'Ole Smokey', a 'newer' #72 with bone handles !
Jerry, i owe you a favor,
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Congratulations. That's a good deal. Now you have two more to get. One with the ducks on the water blade deep etch and one that's just plain vanilla Camillus 72. All three have black bone handles.
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kootenay joe wrote:With those listing pictures handles could be bubblegum. The full flat grind is why i thought Delrin. But good to know it is a bone in hiding.
kj

Edit to add: Thank you GURU 72 ! For $20.50 i am the proud owner of 'Ole Smokey', a 'newer' #72 with bone handles !
Jerry, i owe you a favor,
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Very nice Kj. I believe I paid substantially more for mine. ::tu::
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Thank you Gents. The enthusiasm for this little knife is infectious esp. with so many helpers & Jerry's indepth knowledge which he willingly shares.
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Re: camillus #72

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Handle question:
did Camillus only ever handle the 72's with bone & Delrin ?
I am asking about all 72's including those that have other brandings like Sears, D.U., etc.
I think this pattern would look great with some very black ebony or African Blackwood and perhaps with ivory too.
Has anyone here had custom handles installed on a #72 ?
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kootenay joe wrote:Handle question:
did Camillus only ever handle the 72's with bone & Delrin ?
I am asking about all 72's including those that have other brandings like Sears, D.U., etc.
I think this pattern would look great with some very black ebony or African Blackwood and perhaps with ivory too.
Has anyone here had custom handles installed on a #72 ?
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........I've got a 4 line, sword brand #72 and a 4 line split-spring whittler that have smooth caramel-colored bone, big oval shields w/ 4 points, and worked liners!!!.......never seen another like them!!.................... ::shrug:: ..................
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They were handled in:
  • Bone (1946 - ~early 1950s) and Black synthetic, at least two different formulas (1946 - ~1956 or maybe mid '60s)
  • Brown synthetic called "Brownstag" (1956 - mid - late '60s)
  • Brown Delrin (mid '60s - Close)
  • Yellow Delrin (Early '70s - Close)
  • Black Bone - 3 SFOs (sometime in the 1990s)
  • Wood as a #5 pattern ('99-'03)
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All those dates are approximate. Don't bet your pension on them and please don't ask for further clarification because I'm plum out of clarification.
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Thanks yet again Jerry. Great 'chart' to help orient us to handles & age.
Now i would like to find one of the wood ones which might be under cover as a #5 pattern.
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In addition to wood handles, the #5s have brass bolsters and don't pop up often. Good luck.

There's a Yello-Jaket with the Yellow Jacket plastic shield on eBay right now. Rather scarce knife but even at that, IMO he has it listed for waaaaay too much $$$$$$. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Camillus-72-Ye ... SwdGFYzTr0
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jerryd6818 wrote:There's a Yello-Jaket with the Yellow Jacket plastic shield on eBay right now. Rather scarce knife but even at that, IMO he has it listed for waaaaay too much $$$$$$. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Camillus-72-Ye ... SwdGFYzTr0
Rarity of the shielded knife aside, when you're asking more for a contemporary knife than the Ditwit in Texas without a "Make Offer" option you're either in it for the long haul or not really willing to sell the knife. :lol:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Camillus-72Y-C ... 2079637960
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Ya gotta wonder what Dit is smokin' in that Pipe down on the Creek there in Texas.
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I got this one in yesterday from bestgear. Pretty snazzy!
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Nice score Greg! :D Thanks for the chart dating the handle material Jerry! ::tu::
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Randy, it's just my loosey goosey best guess but I think it's within a decade or two. :D
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Greg, does the Orvis have wood handles ?
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kootenay joe wrote:Greg, does the Orvis have wood handles ?
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Yes it does Kj. I believe all of the knives in that Orvis River Series had wooden handles.
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