Who's into S & M?

Schatt & Morgan knives were first manufacturer back in 1890. The Queen Cutlery company made most of the more recent examples, but Schatt had its own plant in its earlier years that cranked out the oldies. There is no shortage of fantastic Schatt & Morgan knives in existance that have been made over the brand's long & storied history.
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It has slanted, pinched, grooved bolsters but i don't think that is what you are referring to.
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kootenay joe wrote:It has slanted, pinched, grooved bolsters but i don't think that is what you are referring to.
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That's not it Roland but that was actually a pretty good guess. The feature I'm referring to is something that Queen started doing this year to the best of my knowledge. Possibly as recent as just a few months ago.

They have only done it on a few knives so far.
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It has a Keystone shield on both sides.

While I'm on the subject of shields, both shields on this knife are pinned, not glued. I can see the pins pressed into the liners opposite the shields inside the blade well.
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Cool knife, Rick...very nice. ::tu::

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QTCut5 wrote:Cool knife, Rick...very nice. ::tu::

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Thanks ~Q~ ! (I had to search my keyboard to find those little squiggly lines before and aft the Q) :mrgreen:
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Railsplitter wrote:
QTCut5 wrote:Cool knife, Rick...very nice. ::tu::

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Thanks ~Q~ ! (I had to search my keyboard to find those little squiggly lines before and aft the Q) :mrgreen:
Well, you must have exceptional vision or a high resolution computer screen, or both, to even be able to distinguish the squiggly tilde (~) from a straight line hyphen (-)...it's all about the details.

Speaking of details...this Elk #41 Copperhead has a few interesting ones that are different from the standard pattern. Pretty obvious to anyone familiar with the Queen #41 pattern, I would think. It's always nice to have a little variation on a theme, IMO.
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Very nice! I like Elk handles a lot and I really need to get more of them. Right now I only have one but it's not a Queen.

I'll take a stab at the details but I can only spot a couple:

The nail pull cut out and a satin finished full flat ground blade?
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I see the hole in the blade as throwing the knife 'off balance'. It distracts the eye from the flow of the knife's lines. But of course it might look 'just right' to someone else.
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Railsplitter wrote:I'll take a stab at the details but I can only spot a couple:

The nail pull cut out and a satin finished full flat ground blade?
...and the modified clip blade profile.
kootenay joe wrote:I see the hole in the blade as throwing the knife 'off balance'. It distracts the eye from the flow of the knife's lines. But of course it might look 'just right' to someone else.
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I agree that the cut out pull is less aesthetically pleasing, but it sure is functional; makes the knife ambidextrous and also easier to open with a pick (for us old geezers with arthritic hands that don't work so well anymore).

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I feel the same way towards tactical style knives with jigged bone handles or inlay. The tactical style knives look better with sleek modern handle materials. And traditional style knives don't need a hole in the blade. But i don't mind at all if other people really like the mix 'n match look. There truly is a knife for everybody's taste.
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Stag Sheepfoot Executive Jack #99 Factory Sample.
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3 3/4" ?
I'd like to see a spearpoint blade with a full saber grind from mid point down; aka "Stabber Jack".
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I’ve just started collecting these, here is my first 2.
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Sixpak74 wrote:I’ve just started collecting these, here is my first 2.
Very nice set but you're 4 short of a sixpak :D
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Couple more Wharncliffe Keystones to add to my pile:

Smooth Oiled Bone Swayback Jack #01
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Amber Worm Groove Executive Jack #99
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At some point I showed this photo before but it was not, I think, on this thread.
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That's gotta be some of the nicest looking stag I've ever seen on a scout/camp knife pattern, Quick Steel...absolutely gorgeous.
That's a hard act to follow; makes my jigged white bone wharncliffe Executive Jack look like even more of a plain Jane than it already is.
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Q that ain't no plain Jane brother.
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Thank you Q, glad you like it. I think your knife has lots of appeal. I'm not just being polite. That is a very sleek looking wharnie. ::tu::
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Here are 2 S&M #65 "Baby Sunfish", 3 5/8" Equal End knife (big pen knife, or small Double End jack). The EDC version just arrived from ebay. Seller had it listed for a very reasonable price for weeks. I watched and finally made a slightly lower offer which was accepted. I think the big "EDC" etch put people off ?
What is also impressive in addition to looks is the the master blades are actually sharp which has not been common for many years with Queen knives.
Both of these Sunfish are excellent knives.
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Love those two!
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Thanks. Me too, excellent size & slender too.
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Gorgeous mammoth handle scales on both of those beauties, for sure.

Very nice!

You oughta post them over in the Matching Pairs thread as well.

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They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast.
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I buy way more Schatt than anything else right now. I really enjoy them. Been picking up a lot of their older stuff. Always looking for dollar knives. Kind of consider them the same company as queens. Same building. The supervisors from Schatt created queens way back in the day and then bought Schatt when they went out of business a short time later. It’s been such a long time they really are the same thing, i just enjoy the knives put out under the Schatt name better.
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Here's my latest addition to the Schatt pile.
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