Who's into S & M?

[QTCut5]

Greg, that whittler is sweet.

Here's a #99 Spear Point Executive Jack with Amber Carved Stag Bone handle (I tried to photograph it in setting sunlight to show the ember-like glow of the ACSB, but the sun was setting so fast I had to rush the shot, so, not the best photos).

~Q~

[philco]

Beautiful knife Q.

[kootenay joe]

Q, i really like your Executive Jack. Is it saber ground on front side ? And is the edge quite sharp ?
The last few Queen's i have received (all recent production) have mostly arrived with near shaving sharp edges which is a vast improvement over the Queens from just a few years ago.
kj

[QTCut5]

Thanks, Phil & kj.

Unfortunately, no...not a saber grind, but that sure would be nice. Since they're ostensibly trying to be more innovative and competitive, Queen really ought to consider putting a saber ground spear point on a #99 frame for a future iteration of this pattern. Brilliant idea.

As for edge sharpness, it is plenty sharp but it's really not shaving sharp. I agree with you, though, in that my more recent S&M acquisitions do seem to have a sharper factory edge than many of my earlier Queen knives.

One criticism I have of many of my Queen blades, not the clip points or wharncliffes, which are thicker and sturdier, but mostly the sheepfoot and spear point blades (including the one on this #99), is they are very thin, so thin it seems they could be easily bent or nicked from routine cutting chores. Perhaps the thin blades are designed more for slicing soft materials like fruit & cheese, etc.? Although this is not a significant problem for me personally since I don't EDC these knives, I wonder what the experience is for others who actually do carry and use them.

~Q~

[kootenay joe]

I have an 'older' Queen made Northwoods Stockman inbound, made in 1990's or early 2000's. I will let you know about blade grind thickness when i have it. Interested to see how different it might be from the recent 'too thin' blade grinds mentioned above.
kj

[bigbore]

Are the DFC marked knives still made in Titusville?

[Quick Steel]

bigbore, Those half whittlers are flat out gorgeous.

[bdev]

Are the DFC marked knives still made in Titusville?
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Yes. DFC = Daniels Family Cutlery

[QTCut5]

S&M #54 Walnut Wharncliffe Half-Whittler

~Q~

[philco]

Sweet knife Q.

Better hang on to it after today's sad news.

[carrmillus]

...you are right, phil, I have 4 I was about to try to sell, but I think i'll wait and see what happens???...... ..........

[RalphAlsip]

The 4 1/4" Cigar pattern in any brand is a favorite of mine. The mark on this knife is S x M Gowanda NY which dates from 1897 to 1902. It has been used and sharpened and could use some TLC from an appearance standpoint. It is made from heavy stock with tight blades and tremendous snap. In the top down view notice how tightly the master spear and pen blades fit and sit in the blade well. Despite this tightness, there is no blade rub evident on either blade.

It will be another sad day in the knife world if we lose the knife making heritage of S&M.

[kootenay joe]

Fantastic old knife. Even GEC does not design with the tight tolerances shown in this 100+ yr old S&M knife.
kj

[Railsplitter]

The 4 1/4" Cigar pattern in any brand is a favorite of mine. The mark on this knife is S x M Gowanda NY which dates from 1897 to 1902. It has been used and sharpened and could use some TLC from an appearance standpoint. It is made from heavy stock with tight blades and tremendous snap. In the top down view notice how tightly the master spear and pen blades fit and sit in the blade well. Despite this tightness, there is no blade rub evident on either blade.

It will be another sad day in the knife world if we lose the knife making heritage of S&M.

Awesome find! I would love to own an original Schatt. Very nice.

[kootenay joe]

The original S&M knives i see have always been heavily used with ++ blade loss. I am sure there are some minty, never used examples but they usually don't get exchanged on the 'open' market.
kj

[stockman]

Jerry that S&M is the ones that lovers of old knives dream about.

Harold

[bdev]

That's a great old knife.
When these old knives were made, the craftsman that built these knives never thought they'd be used a hundred years later. Amazing.

[Dinadan]

The 4 1/4" Cigar pattern in any brand is a favorite of mine. The mark on this knife is S x M Gowanda NY which dates from 1897 to 1902. It has been used and sharpened and could use some TLC from an appearance standpoint. It is made from heavy stock with tight blades and tremendous snap. In the top down view notice how tightly the master spear and pen blades fit and sit in the blade well. Despite this tightness, there is no blade rub evident on either blade.

It will be another sad day in the knife world if we lose the knife making heritage of S&M.

That S&M is in incredible shape for a hundred year old knife. I do like the precision of the asymmetric grind and the fitting of those blades in the top down photo.

[peanut740]

Jerry,there was an unused large cigar with the same stamp at the Queen Show this past summer.I tried to buy it ,but it was already spoken for. A guy that is a forum member got it.I told him if he ever wanted to pass it on,to keep me in mind.It was a show stopper.

[RalphAlsip]

Jerry,there was an unused large cigar with the same stamp at the Queen Show this past summer.I tried to buy it ,but it was already spoken for. A guy that is a forum member got it.I told him if he ever wanted to pass it on,to keep me in mind.It was a show stopper.

I hope the forum member sees this and posts pictures. It looks like several us would really enjoy seeing it.

Thanks everyone for the encouraging comments.

[QTCut5]

Couple of my latest S&M acquisitions...gotta grab 'em while you still can...these may be brand new knives but they're the last of a dying breed (so sad).

Schatt & Morgan #01 Swayback Jack

Schatt & Morgan #01 Swayback Jack

Schatt & Morgan #01 Swayback Jack

Schatt & Morgan #64 Wharncliffe Canoe

Schatt & Morgan #64 Wharncliffe Canoe

Schatt & Morgan #64 Wharncliffe Canoe

~Q~

[QTCut5]

S&M Ivory Camel Bone #01 Swayback Jack

~Q~

[kootenay joe]

The 01 pattern is most attractive whether with stag or smooth bone. I am going to look for one. with mammoth if they exist & if i can afford it.
kj

[Quick Steel]

As the preceding posts by Q illustrate, I doubt that any knife manufacturer ever made prettier knives than S&M. S&M was the first production knife I ever bought [canoe] and I suspect one day it will be the last.

[FarSide]

2007 Keystone Series #54 Split-back Whittler