GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby Colonel26 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:56 am

I have one GEC knife, a whittler, that I got from a friend. I like it a lot. I would like to have more. But, I refuse to play the GEC game.

And I agree with Mike. That shield looks cheap to me.
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby kennedy knives » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:02 pm

Just my Thoughts on GEC there producing 2000 to 3000 per Pattern with different handles . I talked to Christy and tried to order 100 SFO knives she wanted an order of 2000 to 3000 . They use to do a limited edition of not more than 100 and even less than that. Those are the one's I think will hold there value . Now Days everyone is jumping on the band wagon and trying to make a quick Buck . I'm guilty of that. Gary

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby JET79 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:57 am

Oh wow, that seems like quite a bit. I’m assuming that’s why collector knives is gonna have about 5 different handles for their SFO. We’re the 14’s set up like that?

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby WoodManGM » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:49 pm

kennedy knives wrote:Just my Thoughts on GEC there producing 2000 to 3000 per Pattern with different handles . I talked to Christy and tried to order 100 SFO knives she wanted an order of 2000 to 3000 . They use to do a limited edition of not more than 100 and even less than that. Those are the one's I think will hold there value . Now Days everyone is jumping on the band wagon and trying to make a quick Buck . I'm guilty of that. Gary


Odd that you were told that when the recent #14 run featured more that a dozen dealer SFOs, many with only 100 pieces of each handle material. The current #85 run has an SFO by a single dealer with five handle materials. The Early Reserve on these knives went so fast that I don't think they could have possibly represented 2500-3000 units.

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby robbobus » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:42 pm

KSF has previously said to the effect that they are limited to 500 knives per run give or take. Checking the production records for 2015-17 sfo runs rarely exceeded that level, and by insignificant numbers when they did.

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby kennedy knives » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:49 pm

Hi Ran a few numbers on 2017 GEC Total on Patterns . want to see while Christy was wanting me to order more than anyone else . I guess she just didn't want to take my order of 400 Cotton samplers said there had to be a least 2000 , don't know ::facepalm::

13 Pattern 515 one blade, 972 two blades, 453 three Blades Total 1998
15 Pattern 551 one blades 79 two blades total 630
25 Pattern 1323 one blades
35 Pattern 3049 two blades
38 Pattern 2347 one blades
48 Pattern 1872 one blades ,1383 two blades Total 3255
54 Pattern 521 one blades, 954 two blades Total 1475
66 Pattern 2412 Three Blades
74 Pattern 1859 one blade
78 Pattern 400 one blade, 900 two blade ,224 three blades Total 1530

This is looking at Pattern #'s total that was listed on the GEC site for 2017 didn't do them all .
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby robbobus » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:26 am

400, let alone 2000 Cotton Samplers would be a very ambitious order for one to take out. Great pattern mind you, I was studying my Northfield jigged bone and brass last week. I wonder if they would have a different tune if an order like that was alongside a larger planned run of 74s?
74 has spawned so many distinct knives. DLT mustangs, the Cotton Samplers, Northwoods Esky and Michigan Jacks, Saddle Trappers, were the big clips called Stallions?, probably a few more.
I'd like to see a run of clip and pen, or spear and pen 74 Jack's myself. To me it's preferable to the 73 as it's easier to access the blades.

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby gsmith7158 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:00 pm

MMMust have polished stag bullet end 85. ::ds:: ::drool:: ::ds:: ::ds:: ::drool:: ::drool:: ::drool::
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby kootenay joe » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:48 pm

The polished stag does look attractive.
What is the best way to get one ? Are there any reserve lists with space that you know of ?
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby gsmith7158 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:10 pm

Roland this is a SFO for Collector Knives only and reservations are closed. All I got was standby so we'll probably have to depend on the secondary market to get one. ::teary_eyes::
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby Tsar Bomba » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:34 pm

Finally spiked an 85.

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Acrylics MIGHT still be available.
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby gsmith7158 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:53 pm

Tsar Bomba wrote:Finally spiked an 85.

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Acrylics MIGHT still be available.

Way to go Tony! Looking good! ::tu::
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby Sharpnshinyknives » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:58 am

kennedy knives wrote:Hi Ran a few numbers on 2017 GEC Total on Patterns . want to see while Christy was wanting me to order more than anyone else . I guess she just didn't want to take my order of 400 Cotton samplers said there had to be a least 2000 , don't know ::facepalm::

13 Pattern 515 one blade, 972 two blades, 453 three Blades Total 1998
15 Pattern 551 one blades 79 two blades total 630
25 Pattern 1323 one blades
35 Pattern 3049 two blades
38 Pattern 2347 one blades
48 Pattern 1872 one blades ,1383 two blades Total 3255
54 Pattern 521 one blades, 954 two blades Total 1475
66 Pattern 2412 Three Blades
74 Pattern 1859 one blade
78 Pattern 400 one blade, 900 two blade ,224 three blades Total 1530

This is looking at Pattern #'s total that was listed on the GEC site for 2017 didn't do them all .
Gary


I contacted GEC this month to get an SFO on the schedule for anytime in the future, literally anytime in the next few years. Got turned down and told they aren’t taking any more orders.
Normally in business when something is this hot, the company ramps up production by hiring and training more people and expanding facilities. GEC is going to blunder if they don’t watch out. Someone will see this success, copy it and put the resources behind it to knock them off their perch. That’s what will burst this bubble.
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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby Tsar Bomba » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:27 am

Am I seeing an opening that Queen should have exploited and maybe someone like Canal Street Co-op is in place to jump into?

I'm also noting that some of the "lolly scramble" patterns actually have desirable variations still out there at a couple of the first-run dealers. I'm already having to pick and choose which knives I might get and which I might wait out. Is GEC going "ultra-premium" in more of a Northwoods type direction? Or are they just genuinely out of space on the schedule for a long time?

Should I be worried that GEC won't have the time or staff to do a 2019 AAPK knife? ::paranoid::

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Re: GEC 85 Bullet End Jack

Postby kootenay joe » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:39 am

Quote: "Normally in business when something is this hot, the company ramps up production by hiring and training more people and expanding facilities. GEC is going to blunder if they don’t watch out."
I disagree. Bill Howard, the owner of GEC, is the person we must thank for his vision and determination to make great pocket knives and everyone be as close to perfect as possible. He knows he could make more money by expanding facilities & number of employees. He also knows this could lead to a decline in their very high standards of fit & finish.
Thankfully he chooses instead to continue making the best folding knives possible by continuing to do what they are doing now and have been doing for the last few years because it is working extremely well for his customers.
He could ramp up production by running 2 shifts or getting employees to work overtime. But he doesn't because he very much values and is grateful for the people who are working for him, or more, with him, to create these very fine knives.
It ain't broke, so don't try to fix it. GEC is making a wide variety of traditional patterns and every knife made is close to perfect and Bill Howard is committed to keeping it this way by continuing to do what they are already doing.
We all owe Mr. Howard a great deal of gratitude because he gives us what we most want: a great traditional style pocket knife.
Thank you Bill Howard.
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