GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

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GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby XX Case XX » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:08 pm

I'm surprised that a large number of GEC #81 Bull Moose knives still haven't sold.

As for a few minutes ago, KSF has almost 40 Northfield Stag 81's in stock, and they also have 39 Tidioute Bull Moose in Red Micarta. That's not counting the other 81's in other handle categories. There are also several other GEC Distributors that have numerous 81's still available.

I wonder why that pattern does not seem very popular. Anyone have any ideas? ::shrug::

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby RalphAlsip » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:35 pm

It could be a variety of factors including how many were made. The GEC 81 stockman with 3 blades is called the Abilene. If you are lucky to find one of these the price is very high. If GEC would re-introduce the Abilene I believe these would sell out very fast. So I don't think it is the 81 pattern, I think it is the blade configuration with 2 large blades on each end of the knife that limits the interest.

The 78's seem to have sold very well. They were sold as a single blade and 2 blade jack with the large spear and a smaller pen opening from the same end. The single blade 78 appears to be in higher demand than the 2 blade jack.

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby FarSide » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:19 pm

RalphAlsip wrote:It could be a variety of factors including how many were made. The GEC 81 stockman with 3 blades is called the Abilene. If you are lucky to find one of these the price is very high. If GEC would re-introduce the Abilene I believe these would sell out very fast. So I don't think it is the 81 pattern, I think it is the blade configuration with 2 large blades on each end of the knife that limits the interest.

The 78's seem to have sold very well. They were sold as a single blade and 2 blade jack with the large spear and a smaller pen opening from the same end. The single blade 78 appears to be in higher demand than the 2 blade jack.


I agree. The stockman would have sold much better.

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby kootenay joe » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:55 am

I am surprised that the #81 Moose has not sold out. In the past there have been Queen Moose SFO's that have been very popular plus Charlie C. had a Moose SFO that sold out.
I think it simply missed out on getting 'hyped', meaning someone starts a thread, usually on BF while the knife is still in production. Think of the #15 Barlow hype that has some of these knives selling for $400 on secondary market.
The other factor might be quality of the Stag which shows too much underlying white antler. i would like a Stag 81 but cannot find one with 'acceptable' Stag.
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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby biglmbass » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:18 pm

As for me it's the soft pulls that are more than a bit of a turn-off. I much prefer the #81 3-blade stockman and coon skinners.

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby JET79 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:34 pm

I haven’t gotten one but I think they look great. My favorite is in Appaloosa bone of which I’ve almost pulled the trigger on but with so many knives that I really want coming out lately I’ve pumped the brakes on the 81, I figure they’ll still be there later.

Side note: I thought I had heard that as of right now this is the only run to have the CKC stamped on them. Is that true? If it is and they never stamp another run with that, would that uniqueness add value or just be a neet talking point in the future to you guys?

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby kootenay joe » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:57 pm

I doubt whether how a GEC is marked will affect value. The pattern, blade configuration, and handle type all influence desirability. I don't care how they are marked other than some of the early ones that have a huge blade etch that might say "One of Fifty", which i don't like. But a tang marking doesn't matter.
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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby Tsar Bomba » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:08 am

Unpopular or not, the Appaloose bone 81 has become part of my core EDC rotation. I bought one to toss in the safe "just in case" but I took the prettier one and put it to work right away. It gets regular carry to this day. I took this pic leaving work on Thursday:
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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby JET79 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Super cool Tsar, thanks for sharing. I must resist till later ... I must!

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby TravisB » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:44 am

I like the 81 ::tu:: just be better if it had a half stop

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby kootenay joe » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:19 pm

The "moose" is a long established American pattern that does not have half stops. GEC could make one with half stops but then it is no longer true to the traditional pattern.
I used to be in favor of half stops but with increasing knife experience i came to not care if a pattern has half stops or not. A finger cut can occur with the blade going from half stop position to closed. It does not happen from open to half stop position. If you 'bump' an open blade without half stops it does not go all the way to closed position. Hence half stops don't really give much protection from a cut.
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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby Tsar Bomba » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:25 am

kootenay joe wrote:I used to be in favor of half stops but with increasing knife experience i came to not care if a pattern has half stops or not. A finger cut can occur with the blade going from half stop position to closed. It does not happen from open to half stop position. If you 'bump' an open blade without half stops it does not go all the way to closed position. Hence half stops don't really give much protection from a cut.

This, so much. ::tu::

I like a half-stop on my Barlow master. Anything else seems to depend on the knife itself. I have a few knives with super-strong half-stops that detract (IMO) from the opening action of the knife and, in one or two cases, impeded a closing blade enough for me to nick myself when trying to do it one-handed. I know a lot of people love half-stops on just about everything but I don't think I have much of a preference either way, with some exceptions. ::shrug::

For what it's worth, the opening and closing action on my Appy 81 moose, one of my most-carried knives this year, are smooth enough that the lack of a half stop actually works to its benefit (again, IMO). Your mileage may vary.

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby m0nk » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:06 am

Tsar Bomba wrote:Unpopular or not, the Appaloose bone 81 has become part of my core EDC rotation. I bought one to toss in the safe "just in case" but I took the prettier one and put it to work right away. It gets regular carry to this day. I took this pic leaving work on Thursday:


Tony, how do you carry your 81 moose? It's a hefty knife for edc; does it ride in a slip, or maybe in a belt sheath? Or does it just go right in the pocket? My 54 big jack is a similar size, as is my Buck 301, and I find them a little big for straight pocket carry. I'm always looking for more comfortable carry methods for my larger folders because I like a big knife option but don't like the feel in the pocket.

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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby Gunstock Jack » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:52 pm

Love the pattern and edc a Tidioute green bone. Great size with two full sized blades, although the sheepfoot is missed at times. I don't find the softer pull objectionable whatsoever. ::tu::
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Re: GEC #81 Bull Moose/Un-popular Design?

Postby kootenay joe » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:33 pm

A softer pull is a good pull. There is no need for springs that make a blade stiff to open. A spring serves 2 functions: 1) to keep the blade closed so that it cannot flop open or poke the tip above the liners, and 2) to hold the blade in the fully open position such that a slight knock on the spine does not take it off the fully open position. It does not take a 'bear trap' spring to do this. A 'softer' spring holds the blade open perfectly well.
If i carry a knife with strong springs i sometimes won't use it because i don't want the 'struggle' needed to open the blade. With a softer pull knife, there is no thinking about it, instead just get the knife out of pocket and open it, all easy & smooth.
Years ago i was a strong spring guy and thought a soft spring knife was inferior. Now i know better
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