All About Pocket Knives

kootenay joe wrote:Mark, your Madison Barlow looks sharp ! I have seen mammoth and giraffe that look similar to this apaloosa.
I agree the Fayette is one of the best for in hand feel.
I think the term "run up" refers to the portion of tang that runs up to meet the blade spine to make the corner that sticks up when blade is closed.
I think you are referring to the meeting of spring with blade spine and for this i have never heard any specific name for this.
Maybe a knife mechanic might know the correct name ?
kj

Another member told me it was called that. But I don’t know. It seems there is no rock solid term for that, which is odd. I guess we can make our own name or acronym for it. They way I have trouble finding the right words lately I guess I will start with “ouoyktt”. Which stands for “oh,uhm,oh,you,know,that,thing”.
I’m not married to that, so I will entertain suggestions.
Mark

A couple of great pickups Mark! I think anybody that was able to get anything out of that madness of a drop should feel very lucky.

gsmith7158 wrote:A couple of great pickups Mark! I think anybody that was able to get anything out of that madness of a drop should feel very lucky.

Thanks Greg. It was an interesting experience. I found it very frustrating. I gave up shopping in stores at Christmas time for the same reason, I find it frustrating. I am pleased with the knives. The Fayette jack surprised me. I love that knife and here I thought I was settling.
Mark

I recently got this #81 Moose in amber bone, my first GEC knife. I guess a lot of people today do not care for the Moose pattern, but I have a few and like them mostly because of the large size and blade arrangement.

Nice looking knife OC.

I bought a lot of 75 knives a couple of months ago off Ebay. The average cost came out to be 3.67 per knife. It was packed in 4 bags and I had only opened one bag. The first bag had some pretty decent knives. I decided to wait to unveil the others, at a later time. Tonight I got to worrying if any celluloid knives were in the bags (none were). I opened the remainder. There were a lot of Buck, Schrade, Parker Japan with nice bone, Winchester, Remington, a nice K-Bar USA. Many newer China made...many USA; but, all were in great shape; a couple of knives missing shields. One of the best lots of knives I've picked up. The guy that had this collection had a pretty good eye for decent knives. Most were not high dollar knives; although, many are $15-$20 knives. A nice Military issue Camillus. But...this one shocked me to find!
Great Eastern Cutlery Tidioute 818213.

Good score on that Coon Skinner.

Just got my Pemberton w/ the smooth white bone from Traditional Pocketknives. I like white bone knives almost as much as green knives. This one is really nice looking.
SSk

Very nice looking knife Mark. Was tempted by that one but havent given in yet.

DM11 wrote:Very nice looking knife Mark. Was tempted by that one but havent given in yet.

It’s really a very nice knife. Fit and finish are great, the pull is just what you expect on a GEC knife.
The stags are hitting the dealers right now. Had an email tonight and they sold 20 in no time. CK informs me that tomorrow they will be sending out emails for people that reserved to choose their knife. Then they will have another batch coming on Tuesday. So keep an eye open if interested.
Thanks,
Mark

The smooth white bone is by far the best looking Pemberton. I went looking for one but, too late, all gone to new homes, none left for slow old farts. GEC collecting is getting to be a young guys game. Fast reflexes needed and state of the art equipment for micro-second speed advantage.
By the time us old guys have had our nap and found our glasses (and maybe dentures), they's all gone. Darn eh.
kj

kootenay joe wrote:The smooth white bone is by far the best looking Pemberton. I went looking for one but, too late, all gone to new homes, none left for slow old farts. GEC collecting is getting to be a young guys game. Fast reflexes needed and state of the art equipment for micro-second speed advantage.
By the time us old guys have had our nap and found our glasses (and maybe dentures), they's all gone. Darn eh.
kj

Maybe I will start buying twos when I can so I can pass one along to a friend like you here on the forum. And if you or others aren’t interested than I can keep them or sell them elsewhere. We’ve got to help the elderly when we can.
SSk

"We’ve got to help the elderly when we can"
That's the spirit we need more of ! Help The Old Ones get more knives ! Right on. Thank you.
kj

Got this one in the mail today. I just happened to be looking at my email at just the right time. Muscle bone 46.
SSk

Sharpnshinyknives wrote:Got this one in the mail today. I just happened to be looking at my email at just the right time. Muscle bone 46.
SSk

Nice grab & knife. GEC did a nice job on those. Probably won't see those again for a long while.

How about some new-to-me Nifebrite?? Boy I sure do love nifebrite!

With a nifebright handle you can leave the knife on your bedside table and if you wake up in the dark you can see it's glow. You can get it without turning on the light.
kj

Just picked up a "Schrade Fire & Ice "SUSA1" with Red Pick Bone handles. It is a GEC #23 pattern made in very early 2007 (or late 2006 ?) They are the very first SFO that GEC made. This one was listed for a full week with a $75 opening bid. I was the only bidder as often is the case with a high opening bid.
I think $75 for a new in box GEC is a good deal but i guess no one else does. Do you see it as worth less because it is not branded "GEC" ?
kj
Edit to add pictures !

Question: do you see the above "Fire & Ice" knife as a collectible GEC even though it is not branded "GEC" ?
kj

kootenay joe wrote:Question: do you see the above "Fire & Ice" knife as a collectible GEC even though it is not branded "GEC" ?
kj

I don’t think it worth less by any means or less collectible. I have thought about picking some of these up myself. Never could figure out why knives made in the same plant w/ two different stamps are worth varying amounts. You see that all the time w/ Keen Kutter knives made by Camillus. I see people on here trying to trade a Keen Kutter for an identical Camillus. I mean what’s the diff? It’s made by the same people w/ the same materials to the same standards. If there were a difference in standards or materials, I could see it then.
I think it shows a bit more sophistication or knowledge that you have a knife like a Schrade in your collection that is made by GEC. The uneducated won’t know what we know about who made that knife.
35 years ago I tried my hand at selling pick up trucks when I was between jobs. It was a Chevy dealership in Ft. Wayne IN. There is a GM truck plant in Ft Wayne. GMC and Chevy trucks came down the same assembly line, each had their own badges and logos, but otherwise identical in every way. Yet if we had a GMC on the lot, people ran from them. You could hardly give a Jimmy away. Why? If you can answer that question, you might have an answer to whether this knife is as collectible or not. I am still trying to figure that out.
SSk

Mark, thanks for your reply. I think the same way: if made in GEC factory by GEC employees then it is a GEC knife. However there are those who collect by markings. Whichever brand it is they collect, they want that name on the tang.
The above knife sold for $75. If it had been a #23 from 2006-07 with jigged bone handles the selling price would have been higher, possibly 3x the amount. This 'Fire & Ice' is a screaming good deal for a GEC knife but no one else went for it.
This suggests that most GEC collectors want GEC markings only.
kj

This suggests that most GEC collectors want GEC markings only.
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I think it's more likely, the majority of GEC buyers, aren't familiar with the connection.

Perhaps it's just a rejection of Stewart Taylor and what he's done to so many fine old American brand names.

"Perhaps it's just a rejection of Stewart Taylor". Yes it is possible as i have read anti-Taylor posts to do with Schrade. I don't agree with that sentiment but if others do it affects the 'market'.
Mr Taylor had nothing to do with the demise of Schrade. He just bought the assets after the bank foreclosed. The Fire & Ice was the first "Schrade" knife he had made. He wanted his first "Schrade" knife to be made USA and be of high quality as a tribute to Schrade for their contribution to USA cutlery, even though he knew he would loose money on it.
I think these Fire & Ice knives (made in 2 sizes, #23 & #73) might have been the very first run of GEC, before they made the first #23 & #73 with their own branding on them.
kj

I have followed these for over 10 years and the price on these has generally been in the range you paid kj. I have 1 of each size. While they are fine knives, i find the nick too shallow and polished or smooth to get a good purchase on the blade for their very stout pulls. This was a criticism back then, and I think a justifiable one on my examples as well. As to value, the buying market for this pattern heavily favours single blade models - factory single blade models at that.

I do rather like mine, cool shield as well.