Technical question

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Technical question

Post by eveled » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:46 am

When whittling small characters. Do you start with a small piece of wood? Or a longer piece make the character then cut him off of the long piece?

In other words. Leave it long so you have a handle.

I’ve done it both ways. Curious what you all prefer.

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Re: Technical question

Post by Mr. Chips » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:11 pm

Use a longer piece if at all possible.

In some case, fabricate a handle which can be detached later.

When I carve the inside of golf balls, I drill a 3/8 hole in the ball first. That tells me what color the rubber inside is right away, and allows me to whittle a handle which makes removing half of the cover and carving the inside a LOT easier and safer too. Later I can fill this hole with a dowel and cork to make it a bottle stopper or just glue in the dowel,and install a corkscrew, or use that glued in dowel as a place to attach the finished piece to whatever else I might want it on.

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Re: Technical question

Post by Doc B » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:32 pm

Mr. Chips wrote:Use a longer piece if at all possible.

In some case, fabricate a handle which can be detached later.

When I carve the inside of golf balls, I drill a 3/8 hole in the ball first. That tells me what color the rubber inside is right away, and allows me to whittle a handle which makes removing half of the cover and carving the inside a LOT easier and safer too. Later I can fill this hole with a dowel and cork to make it a bottle stopper or just glue in the dowel,and install a corkscrew, or use that glued in dowel as a place to attach the finished piece to whatever else I might want it on.
Carving the inside of a golf ball? I'd love to see some pictures!
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Re: Technical question

Post by eveled » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:56 pm

Me too! Best thread drift ever!

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Re: Technical question

Post by doglegg » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:58 pm

Mr. Chips, I third the request for some photo's of the golf ball carving. Thanks. ::nod::

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Re: Technical question

Post by Mr. Chips » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:26 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0u4038cul7xj5 ... 1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9po25mhhicet ... 2.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g421rx22c4j9g ... 1.jpg?dl=0

Here are a couple of golf ball "trolls" that I made.
One has been mounted on a cork - with a dowel through it, and the other one is still on the handle.

Most golf balls these days are of two piece construction - the outer cover and the rubber inner core. (some are made differently)

There are lots of different colors in the inner part depending on the brand and compression and ??? of the balls. They take acrylic paint well too.
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Re: Technical question

Post by Mr. Chips » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:28 pm

OK

I am obviously not good at posting pictures etc. I see after posting that what I thought were three different pics were actually all the same!

I don't know what went wrong

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Re: Technical question

Post by Mr. Chips » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:29 pm

clicking on the links will get the other pics.

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Re: Technical question

Post by eveled » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:36 pm

Those are cool! Thanks for sharing them. I’ll have to give it a try sometime. But I’m not very good at faces.

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Re: Technical question

Post by Mr. Chips » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:56 pm

After drilling the hole and jamming in the handle (it is best if you make that handle a little oversize so that it is necessary to force it into place), draw a line around the ball, and then using a hacksaw, carefully cut all the way around the ball along the line. You will feel the saw go through the cover.

Then using a screw driver (hopefully a worn one without sharp corners) pry off the half of the cover. After a bit of fiddling it will pop off.

Then whittle away!

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Re: Technical question

Post by Doug51 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:07 am

I've whittled things both ways. It's easier to whittle then cut it off if it's a smaller piece you're working on but you can do it either way. The little character I just posted was whittled out of a stick of basswood then I cut it off and shaped the bottom of it a little bit more.
I can't even begin to imagine how hard a golf ball would be to carve out. Very nice!

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Re: Technical question

Post by Mr. Chips » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:11 am

Actually, the rubber insides of most golf balls is easier to carve than basswood. No grain to contend with either.

One thing that is a bit of a concern is that when a cut is made and the knife removed, there is no visible line left! The cut is there, it is just almost impossible to see.

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Re: Technical question

Post by mrwatch » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:24 pm

They actually sell a tool to cut the cover on golf balls for carving. They were making them at the Wood Carvers Round Up. Evert, Mich. As for figure carving, many draw or transfer a pattern then band saw out most of the waste. Just hold it in your hand. When I carved my bass wood Abe Lincoln's bust, I made a rotating stand to go in a wood workers bench vise. Long lag bolt to hold it. A friend had done a large clay model, that I looked at. Used a Detail Master to wood burn all the hair.

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Re: Technical question

Post by doglegg » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:00 pm

What a great educational thread. Thanks for getting it started eveled. And for all the fresh input. ::tu:: ::tu::

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Re: Technical question

Post by Doug51 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:28 pm

mrwatch wrote:They actually sell a tool to cut the cover on golf balls for carving. They were making them at the Wood Carvers Round Up. Evert, Mich. As for figure carving, many draw or transfer a pattern then band saw out most of the waste. Just hold it in your hand. When I carved my bass wood Abe Lincoln's bust, I made a rotating stand to go in a wood workers bench vise. Long lag bolt to hold it. A friend had done a large clay model, that I looked at. Used a Detail Master to wood burn all the hair.
I would really like to go to that show in Evert?. I am hoping to go this year. Do you attend every year?

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