Can anyone date this please.,i think its ww2 but not sure
Can anyone date this please.,i think its ww2 but not sure
I have an old british army knife,please can someone dat it for me?
Re: Can anyone date this please.,i think its ww2 but not sure
With that style opener I think it would be an army knife, post 1939 or thereabouts.
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This is all that I could find.
Per GOINS (see the picture below).
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Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
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Re: Can anyone date this please.,i think its ww2 but not sure
The British 'broad arrow' mark is on the can opener and I believe that denotes government ownership. I would think it was military. But if I'm remembering correctly, the ones I've seen before had a date stamp too.
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Froe is correct. The broad arrow represents Great Britain ownership & the knife is WWII.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
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Wow,thank you all for your help. Very informative.
What would it be worth now in GBP sterling ?
Thankyou all
What would it be worth now in GBP sterling ?
Thankyou all
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It's worth what ever you can get some sucker to pay for it. Personally, I wouldn't pay more than $15-23 GBP. But that's just me. JMO
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Re: Can anyone date this please.,i think its ww2 but not sure
The bottle opener hook on the tin opener blade usually indicates late war production, 1944-45.
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My opinion is it's more likely Navy with the "marlinspike", a rope-working tool.
Here's a JOSEPH RODGERS & SONS aluminum handled with no military mark but it does have the "G(crown)R' stamp which, I think, is for King George, and it's stamped, "1939". I've heard people say the smooth panel in the scale may have been for the ship/boat or owner's name ???? This one had been stamped but someone filed it off and only a couple letters are discernible. Those knives are a nice category to collect. I've seen yours asking $40. I think that's top of the market but there's always the bottomless wallet of e-bay. Good luck with it. J.O'.
Here's a JOSEPH RODGERS & SONS aluminum handled with no military mark but it does have the "G(crown)R' stamp which, I think, is for King George, and it's stamped, "1939". I've heard people say the smooth panel in the scale may have been for the ship/boat or owner's name ???? This one had been stamped but someone filed it off and only a couple letters are discernible. Those knives are a nice category to collect. I've seen yours asking $40. I think that's top of the market but there's always the bottomless wallet of e-bay. Good luck with it. J.O'.
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Ridgegrass - Your knife is the Navy version. It was in service from 1940 until 1986. Later versions will have either a VOCAB or NATO stock number on the ricasso of the blade along with the maker's name. It replaced the Admiralty Pattern 301. The panel on the scales is indeed intended for the owner to stamp their service number. Most I've seen are not marked on the scales.
The smaller black scaled knife Greeny shows is the Army model. Starting with the knives produced for the Boer War the War Department specified a spike on the issue Army knife. Originally issued to mounted troops with instructions to dull the point on the spike so it could be used as a hoof pick the knife was soon approved for issue to all troops. The Pattern 6353/1905 added a tin opener to the Boer War model. The 6353/1905 was replaced in 1938/39 by the smaller one Greeny posted. The scales are a cellulose acetate plastic trademarked Bexoid. There were some versions made without the spike, but the three blade version is more numerous. Starting in 1945 an all stainless knife with stainless scales started replacing the WWII knife.
Remember that well through WWII rope was used to secure loads in vehicles, guy tents and antennas and generally tie things up, down and to each other. In this day of ratchet straps and bungie cords it is hard to realize just how ubiquitous rope was 50-100 years ago. That's why you often see these knives listed on ebay and other sites as Navy or rigger's knives. People just assume a spike means shipboard use. Not so. In fact I still carry a 6353/1905 on camping trips, the spike being still as useful as it was during WWI. If you've ever tried to untie a knot that is wet, muddy and has been under strain from a shifting load you know how handy a marlin spike can be.
Here are some samples of the issue knives from the Boer War through WWII Top my EDC SAK for scale
1st row L-R Boer War model, 6353/1905
2nd row 6353/1905 open
3rd row Camillus and Schatt & Morgan 6353/1905 made for Canada WWI
4th row Turner made for Canada WWI
5th row Pattern 8171/1914, Pattern 8172/1914 WWI
6th row Case made for Canada WWII and early post war
7th row three blade WWII issue Army knife (notice no bottle opener on open knife)
8th row two bladed WWII knife and 1945 dated all-stainless issue knife
9th row 1870 dated Navy rope knife (square tipped blades typical of Navy issued knives)
10th row Admiralty Pattern 301, 1940-1986 Navy issue
The smaller black scaled knife Greeny shows is the Army model. Starting with the knives produced for the Boer War the War Department specified a spike on the issue Army knife. Originally issued to mounted troops with instructions to dull the point on the spike so it could be used as a hoof pick the knife was soon approved for issue to all troops. The Pattern 6353/1905 added a tin opener to the Boer War model. The 6353/1905 was replaced in 1938/39 by the smaller one Greeny posted. The scales are a cellulose acetate plastic trademarked Bexoid. There were some versions made without the spike, but the three blade version is more numerous. Starting in 1945 an all stainless knife with stainless scales started replacing the WWII knife.
Remember that well through WWII rope was used to secure loads in vehicles, guy tents and antennas and generally tie things up, down and to each other. In this day of ratchet straps and bungie cords it is hard to realize just how ubiquitous rope was 50-100 years ago. That's why you often see these knives listed on ebay and other sites as Navy or rigger's knives. People just assume a spike means shipboard use. Not so. In fact I still carry a 6353/1905 on camping trips, the spike being still as useful as it was during WWI. If you've ever tried to untie a knot that is wet, muddy and has been under strain from a shifting load you know how handy a marlin spike can be.
Here are some samples of the issue knives from the Boer War through WWII Top my EDC SAK for scale
1st row L-R Boer War model, 6353/1905
2nd row 6353/1905 open
3rd row Camillus and Schatt & Morgan 6353/1905 made for Canada WWI
4th row Turner made for Canada WWI
5th row Pattern 8171/1914, Pattern 8172/1914 WWI
6th row Case made for Canada WWII and early post war
7th row three blade WWII issue Army knife (notice no bottle opener on open knife)
8th row two bladed WWII knife and 1945 dated all-stainless issue knife
9th row 1870 dated Navy rope knife (square tipped blades typical of Navy issued knives)
10th row Admiralty Pattern 301, 1940-1986 Navy issue
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CHB: That's some good info and a nice collection. I have around eight but yours are superb! The all metal one's with shackle keys are: Ibberson. Utica and Curry, Ltd. Thanks again. J.O'.