From Argentina

[treefarmer]

from the Panhandle of Florida. (I've yet to own a Marlin Spike and I have no excuse. ) You have an interesting assortment that is very nice.
Treefarmer

[asigarza]

Hola Santiago,
Bienvenidos a AAPK. La coleccion es amable.
Donde esta in Argentina?
He viahado a Buenos Aires, San Miguel de Tucuman, y Santiago.

Tony

Hola Tony ..soy de Buenos Aires, vivo a 5km de Aeropuerto Internacional de Ezeiza..

Hi Tony, I'm from Buenos Aires 2 mile ago the Ezeiza International Airport

Bueno,
Avenida 9 de Julio?

Hi Tony, yes near Av 9 de Julio

[asigarza]

Mr Domenech is the most important expert about knives in Argentina.

Thank you Santiago. Yes, Abel Domenech wrote the article I linked to about gaucho knives. (AAPKers, here is his website: http://www.domenech.com.ar/cuchillos.htm. It's in Spanish but you can use Google's translate button.)

Santiago, I can't find information about the company Eskiltuna. The name is very similar to the famous Swedish knife company Eskilstuna. Is there any relationship? Can you tell me where I can see some pictures of Eskiltuna knives?

The first focuses in frigorific industry knives...

I've never seen this word before. I assume it refers to the rapid quenching technique. What Henckels calls "Friodur."

Dennis

Sorry about my poor english, knives for butchers, the factory is Eskilstuna, produce under licence of Eskilstuna of Sweden....http://www.eskilstuna.com.ar/

Abel is the main researcher about knives in our country. He has published a few books, the most important "Del Facon al Bowie" (Facon to Bowie) its a time line about the evolution of the knife. Only in spanish

[asigarza]

I have read about the facon knives carried by the Gauchos and would like to own one someday. (If folks aren't familiar with these knives the ornate ones are beautiful; see this article: http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/facon/criollo.html).
Dennis

Welcome, Santiago!
Dennis, I would love to get one of these knives, but I don't know how to separate the wheat from the chaff, the cream from the tourista stuff. The ones I have seen on ebay look to me like tourist knives. I tend to leave a genre alone if I can't learn enough about it to keep from getting burned. The antique (?) ones I see are stunning!

Dennis....if you want one of this, a true one not for tourist I send it to you and you send me a marlin spike. Agree?
As you said almost on Ebay are for tourist, but there are some tricks to detect fake knives. If you agree next week can write a tutorial about it.
The knives of this picture are for special events, not for daily use. There are some with more than 100 years (british blades are the most wanted) and modern.
The EDC gaucho knife has a wood handle and leather sheath.

[asigarza]

I would love to get one of these knives, but I don't know how to separate the wheat from the chaff...

I feel exactly the same way tongue. Maybe Santiago can be our guide and us which ones are the wheat and which are the chaff? Or maybe he knows of a source in Argentina which is reliable and trustworthy.

Dennis

Sure deo-pa...I'ill help you

[asigarza]

from the Panhandle of Florida. (I've yet to own a Marlin Spike and I have no excuse. ) You have an interesting assortment that is very nice.
Treefarmer

[deo-pa]

Dennis....if you want one of this, a true one not for tourist I send it to you and you send me a marlin spike. Agree?

Sure Santiago, that would be great! I will send you a private message (PM) with photos of my marlin spikes (I only have a few) so you can choose the one you want. Or if you are looking for one in particular I will try and find it for you. It may take a day or two for me to send the PM. Thank you!

Dennis
PS - The Eskilstuna kitchen knives look to be fine knives.

[Eustace]

Hi Santiago! I'm glad you were joining the forum. I also like sailors' knives, and I have some British and German.
I'll be glad if you could give me some information about an Argentine knife, which I found by accident. An old kitchen knife. Interesting mark I had never seen bеfore. M.Mieres & Cia, Buenos Aires. Searching the net, both in English and in Spanish, gave almost no results. The only thing I understand is that it is from Argentina, and the company at the beginning of the 20th century was bought by another company dealing with arms trade production.
I bought it from an elderly man in a village, near to Serbian border. He told me the following story. In 1912 Bulgaria was preparing for the Balkan War. The government announced mass mobilization. Penalties for refusal of mobilization were provided. 4 million population of Bulgaria at the time, collected 800,000 Army. The grandfather of this man was rich and did not want to participate in the war. Along with their whole family, they flee from Bulgaria and emigrate to Argentina. Several years later, after the end of the wars, his father returned to Bulgaria.

[deo-pa]

Sure Santiago, that would be great! I will send you a private message (PM) with photos of my marlin spikes

I've sent you a PM Santiago.

Dennis

[asigarza]

Hi Eustace, please to meet you.
I'm not an expert but give me a few days and will try to help you

Regards

Hi Santiago! I'm glad you were joining the forum. I also like sailors' knives, and I have some British and German.
I'll be glad if you could give me some information about an Argentine knife, which I found by accident. An old kitchen knife. Interesting mark I had never seen bеfore. M.Mieres & Cia, Buenos Aires. Searching the net, both in English and in Spanish, gave almost no results. The only thing I understand is that it is from Argentina, and the company at the beginning of the 20th century was bought by another company dealing with arms trade production.
I bought it from an elderly man in a village, near to Serbian border. He told me the following story. In 1912 Bulgaria was preparing for the Balkan War. The government announced mass mobilization. Penalties for refusal of mobilization were provided. 4 million population of Bulgaria at the time, collected 800,000 Army. The grandfather of this man was rich and did not want to participate in the war. Along with their whole family, they flee from Bulgaria and emigrate to Argentina. Several years later, after the end of the wars, his father returned to Bulgaria.

[asigarza]

Gaucho's knives by size

Caronero...under the saddle

Verijero..near the groin

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Facon...in the back

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[zed6309]

welcome ,nice marlin spike collection

[asigarza]

welcome ,nice marlin spike collection

[Eustace]

Hi Eustace, please to meet you.
I'm not an expert but give me a few days and will try to help you

Regards

Gracias de antemano, amigo!

[asigarza]

Hello Eustace, good news and bad news....

the name Mieres refers to an old armory of the City of Buenos Aires, regarding the stamp speak with recognized specialists in the subject and there is no record of it, therefore it is a very rare piece. Surely it has been manufactured in Europe for that armory, probably at the end of the 19th century beginning of the 20th century. If you could get better pictures we could have more certainties.

Hi Eustace, please to meet you.
I'm not an expert but give me a few days and will try to help you

Regards

Gracias de antemano, amigo!

[Eustace]

Santiago, this is great! I just didn't know where is the bad news. For me, this is the most interesting part of collecting - the identification and history of the knife.
The knife is about 340 mm long. I can't say with absolute precision because a few millimeters from the top is broken. Handle 110 mm, 230 mm blade. Blade thickness 1.5 mm. Width in the widest part 40 mm. Full Tang. The grind starts at about 5 mm from the cutting edge. At the top of the blade there is a false edge, starting at about 60 mm from the end. The wood of the handle is slightly wider than the metal part of the handle.The wood looks like bamboo, but I may be wrong. The rivets have bronze pads. In my opinion, the steel is high-carbon, good heat treatment and high hardness.

Thank you, Santiago!

[knife7knut]

Here are some of my knives from south of the border. While the barbeque set and knife and fork pairs are from Argentina I believe the facons and verijeros are from Brasil.

[deo-pa]

Here are some of my knives from south of the border.

Very nice examples. What metal are the handles?

Dennis

[knife7knut]

Here are some of my knives from south of the border.

Very nice examples. What metal are the handles?

Dennis

They are silver plated but I am not sure what the base metal is. I doubt they are solid silver as there are no hallmarks.Four of the smaller ones came in their original boxes from e-Bay. I won one of them at auction and the seller said she would sell me the others for the same price.If I recall correctly I paid $15 apiece for them.

[asigarza]

Hi
The barbeque and knife/fork sets área from Argentina. The other are from south Brazil.
The handles looks línea nickelsilver but I'm nota sure. I will ask to a friend about ir
Nice knives