All About Pocket Knives

Good afternoon all,
This is my first time on the forum site, so please forgive me if what I'm about to ask is not in line with the purpose of this site. I was a vendor at a knife and gun show yesterday located in Port Charlotte, FL and traded a Winchester Gut Hook Sheath Knife for a Henkels Triodwr Inox folding pocket knife in near mint condition. Please take a look at the pictures and can anyone tell me the retail value?
Many Thanks
Huey Crew Chief

Welcome to AAPK! Nice looking knife. What is its closed length?

It's "Friodur" which is the name Henckels calls their temper process. Sorry I don't have any idea on value but someone else here may know more. Providing retail value appraisals is not really the purpose of AAPK but the question gets asked, and sometimes answered. Nobody here is going to banish you to the dungeons for asking.

Ken

Welcome Huey!

As Ken says the term "Friodur" refers to a process of cryogenically quenching the steel to improve it's properties. I think I'd call your knife a gent's (gentleman's) knife, i.e., a dress knife. Unless it is some special pattern Henckels' collectors covet, my guess is $30 - $50. If you go to the upper right and search in the Member Stores for "Friodur" you will see some such knives, though not yours. Probably your best bet is to search for sold Henckels Friodur knives on eBay and see if your specific pattern has sold recently... that will give you a good idea of value.

Here is a brief discussion of the term Friodur: https://cuttingedgeknives.co.uk/en/help ... l/friodur/

Dennis

i would say was fair trade, as they worth about the same.$35/$45.

Huey, I think the 30-50 range is about right for your knife. As a knife maker, I will tell you that cryo treating stainless steel has been done for quite a few years in the custom knife business. It is a process where you submerge the blade after heat treating in liquid nitrogen (about -300 degrees). It does improve the quality of the heat treat. Firearm makers have played around with cryo treating their barrels. Nice looking "gentlemen knife". and welcome to AAPK Terry

Henckels made metal handled 'Gent's' knives by the millions. Ebay usually has many listed. I have about 75 of them. They are very well made knives but worth very little. Almost nobody wants them. Supply exceeds demand by a thousand fold. If i were to list the Henckels Gent's knives i have on ebay with an opening bid of $0.99, i would end up with about $5 average per knife.
kj

Mumbleypeg wrote:Welcome to AAPK! Nice looking knife. What is its closed length?

It's "Friodur" which is the name Henckels calls their temper process. Sorry I don't have any idea on value but someone else here may know more. Providing retail value appraisals is not really the purpose of AAPK but the question gets asked, and sometimes answered. Nobody here is going to banish you to the dungeons for asking.

Ken

Thaks Ken, for the heads up on Friodur

terryl308 wrote:Huey, I think the 30-50 range is about right for your knife. As a knife maker, I will tell you that cryo treating stainless steel has been done for quite a few years in the custom knife business. It is a process where you submerge the blade after heat treating in liquid nitrogen (about -300 degrees). It does improve the quality of the heat treat. Firearm makers have played around with cryo treating their barrels. Nice looking "gentlemen knife". and welcome to AAPK Terry

Thank You for your Service, I was with The First Cavalry Airmobile Division. And thank you for the information.

deo-pa wrote:Welcome Huey!

As Ken says the term "Friodur" refers to a process of cryogenically quenching the steel to improve it's properties. I think I'd call your knife a gent's (gentleman's) knife, i.e., a dress knife. Unless it is some special pattern Henckels' collectors covet, my guess is $30 - $50. If you go to the upper right and search in the Member Stores for "Friodur" you will see some such knives, though not yours. Probably your best bet is to search for sold Henckels Friodur knives on eBay and see if your specific pattern has sold recently... that will give you a good idea of value.

Here is a brief discussion of the term Friodur: https://cuttingedgeknives.co.uk/en/help ... l/friodur/

Dennis

Thank You

kootenay joe wrote:Henckels made metal handled 'Gent's' knives by the millions. Ebay usually has many listed. I have about 75 of them. They are very well made knives but worth very little. Almost nobody wants them. Supply exceeds demand by a thousand fold. If i were to list the Henckels Gent's knives i have on ebay with an opening bid of $0.99, i would end up with about $5 average per knife.
kj

Thank You for your input

deo-pa wrote:Welcome Huey!

As Ken says the term "Friodur" refers to a process of cryogenically quenching the steel to improve it's properties. I think I'd call your knife a gent's (gentleman's) knife, i.e., a dress knife. Unless it is some special pattern Henckels' collectors covet, my guess is $30 - $50. If you go to the upper right and search in the Member Stores for "Friodur" you will see some such knives, though not yours. Probably your best bet is to search for sold Henckels Friodur knives on eBay and see if your specific pattern has sold recently... that will give you a good idea of value.

Here is a brief discussion of the term Friodur: https://cuttingedgeknives.co.uk/en/help ... l/friodur/

Dennis

Thank You for your reply and the education.

Regardless of value, I'd still think you got the better end of the deal. Those Winchesters (while those I've gotten recently are better quality than those say, 4-5 years ago) aren't exactly stellar in their performance or edge retention. But, the steel Henckels uses is. As users, these old gentleman's knives are the best value I think there is. Most, viewed as "cheap giveaway knives" don't sell for much, but performance-wise are excellent. I enjoy collecting them and using them since they don't cost much, and look good, so they can be used as a formal knife as well as an EDC.

Absolutely the Henckels are well made knives particularly the pre 1960 ones which were Henckels' made. But price of these now is not a function of quality or of original price. Price is strictly a function of, how many are there (lots) and how many people want them (not many).
kj