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Could this be a counterfeit Case?

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I can't seem to find anything like this and I certainly don't want to sell something counterfeit. I can't believe my father could not spot a fake...but you never know, anyway, here are pictures.
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More pictures (case is metal)
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No

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Everything looks to be in perfect order. If you cannot find another example perhaps only a few were sold ? The Case collectors here would know. Perhaps someone might post about this special release Case.
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Thanks guys, the box does say only 200 made. Perhaps this is one I should hang on to then.
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Could have been made for Smoky Mountain Knife Works;they did a lot of SFO editions.I have one that was made for them with a KKK logo on it.
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Knife Knut, Know WAY! :lol: :lol: :lol:

DiRogers, The handles on that knife alone are worth the price of admission anywhere in the world.
I'd say it is the closest thing to having the keys to the city in every city you would want to visit. Beautiful!

EDIT:
You said "sell". Keep an eye on your PM box ::tu::
It will be gone before dinner... ::tu:: There are plenty of Case collectors here. ::nod::
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This is a small thing, but....

The tang stamp dates that knife as a 1989. And that shield would confirm the year as well. Yet it commemorates events (Desert Shield and Desert Storm) that happened in 1990 and 1991. Now it would NOT be the first time that Case used blades produced in a previous year and held in inventory for subsequent production in later years.

But like the other posters, I say it is a sweet Case Stag Trapper. Not so sure about it being an SMKW SFO, though. I'm thinking Frost. They sell alot of Case knives with aftermarket embellishments. And that could explain why you are not finding a lot of info in it.
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Whoooo Nelly.
Seriously? A Frost Knife?
I'll give anything to anyone. I would love to hear more on this. ::nod::
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I thought all Case knives from the 1980's has Lightning S's and dots ???
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Hardman,

SMFW ? Smokey Mountain Frost Works?
SFO ? Special Factory Order?

And yes, the tang stamp apparently dating before the events commemorated confused me too. Of course my hubby would say I am easily confused at times. :lol: I was not aware of the practice of using blades from previous years in knives either.
stagman wrote:I thought all Case knives from the 1980's has Lightning S's and dots ???
That was part of my confusion as well and caused me to question the authenticity.

I really appreciate all the answers, comments and most especially ya’lls patience with the newbie.
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Good Mornin', DiRogers.
There are several similar Case trappers on e-bay. They seem to have been made with several different handle materials and also several types of presentation boxes with the same blade etch as your father's knife with the stag handles. Yours is very nice knife!
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americanedgetech wrote:Knife Knut, Know WAY! :lol: :lol: :lol:
WAY!
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::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::
There are sooo many things that I am not going to say!
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I found this while going through father's knives, I could not believe it !
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hardman wrote:Now it would NOT be the first time that Case used blades produced in a previous year and held in inventory for subsequent production in later years.
Yes. Very good point to remember. ::tu::

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Couldn't they be engraved after they were built? ::shrug::
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DiRogers wrote:I found this while going through father's knives, I could not believe it !
That's nuts... I'm sitting here laughing.
I'm sure these Klan knives are collectible but the audience of buyers is rather ... slim. :lol:
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Frost is a huge customer and reseller of Case knives. I was told that whenever you see a Case knife advertised as having "Corelon" handle scales it went through Frost. Corelon is actually a material whose patent is owned by Michael Prater of Painted Pony knives. Painted Pony calls the material Mica Pearl. But when Frost sells it, it is called Corelon. Case assembles the knife without handle scales and ships them to Painted Pony who installs the Mica Pearl (Painted Pony) or Corelon (Frost) scales.

Another reason I believe the OP Stag Trapper is a Frost SFO is the display box. I have a couple Case Commemorative Trappers that came in a very similar type of display. And at least one had a COA with both Case and Frost markings.

BTW, I do not know how closely related Mica Pearl/Corelon is to Kirinite. I do not believe they are the same material. As everyone probably knows, Case is making knives with Kirinite scales in their Bradford factory today.
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americanedgetech wrote:::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::
There are sooo many things that I am not going to say!
::watching_you::
Just to say that this knife(along with several others including a very nice Marbles stag hunter)was given to me by a friend of my oldest son who had got it while cleaning out a hose of a neighbor who had passed away. I had another one made in Germany many years ago and gave it to my brother.
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That's ok KnifeKnut.
I have a friend here that named his kid so that he would have KKK for his initials... Those are the guys you have to watch out for! ::paranoid::
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Regarding the OP knife there was a recent thread about a similar knife. Similar because it had a pattern number stamped beginning with "3" indicating yellow composition handles but the handles were some other material. viewtopic.php?f=66&t=53933&hilit=Prater I'm of the opinion these are aftermarket re-handled knives. If I had to guess on the OP knife I'd agree with Gary and say Frost.

Also I read somewhere the KKK knives were also aftermarket re-handled. Not done by Case.

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americanedgetech wrote:That's ok KnifeKnut.
I have a friend here that named his kid so that he would have KKK for his initials... Those are the guys you have to watch out for! ::paranoid::
I remember when I lived back east there was a custom knifemaker by the name of Alex Collins whose business name was "Kollins Kustom Knives" and stamped KKK. What made it really ironic was Alex was of African American descent! A really nice guy and a hell of a knifemaker. Someone mentioned he passed away awhile back.
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This is quite the interesting thread DiRogers.
It has some beautiful knives, Frost cutlery making handles, and other bits for Case knives, Dads with Klan knives, and an African American knife maker using KKK for his stamp.
It Matt Groening had written this, it could not have run better. ::tu::
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