First Gen Camillus 72

[orvet]

Nice job Randy!
I would carry it, in fact yesterday I was carrying a first-generation #72.
It looks great!

[#goldpan]

Thanks Dale. You know I love that pattern. I think I have two boxes of them. And I just bought a couple more! And I have two that I plan on modding in the near future. Whether I'm using, repairing or collecting I love them!

[carrmillus]

Randy,
When you say "Cut them apart" are you using a shear blade to actually cut the back spring pivot pin?

I am using a 1/16" hardened blade to shear the pin but I worry EVERY time that I am going to break a good handle. I still find it easier than drilling, and removing the leftovers but my nerves are paying the price.

I use a utility knife blade and a hammer. Wedge the edge of the razor blade in the space between the pin and the liner. For the butt pins, pivot and rocker pins. A few whacks with a hammer. The pin is sliced clean through!

........will a single edge razor blade work for cutting the pins???.......... ................

[jerryd6818]

Randy,
When you say "Cut them apart" are you using a shear blade to actually cut the back spring pivot pin?

I am using a 1/16" hardened blade to shear the pin but I worry EVERY time that I am going to break a good handle. I still find it easier than drilling, and removing the leftovers but my nerves are paying the price.

I use a utility knife blade and a hammer. Wedge the edge of the razor blade in the space between the pin and the liner. For the butt pins, pivot and rocker pins. A few whacks with a hammer. The pin is sliced clean through!

........will a single edge razor blade work for cutting the pins???.......... ................

Tommy, if you're talking about these, the answer is no. They are too thin and too brittle.

If however you are talking about these blades used in razor knives then the answer is yes. As I understand Randy, Dale and Glenn, these are what they prefer.

[#goldpan]

Jerry is correct! I tried those single edge razors at first. One whack and their done and the pin isn't cut.....

[Tsar Bomba]

Thanks Jerry! Come to think of it, aren't you the guy who started me down the path to 72 addiction?

The prosecution rests.

I ain't fessin' up to nothin' .

No court in the land would acquit.

[jerryd6818]

Dang Tony. I thought we were buddy's and here you are throwing me under the bus. Jeez! What a pal.

[Tsar Bomba]

Dang Tony. I thought we were buddy's and here you are throwing me under the bus. Jeez! What a pal.

This one was what they call an open-and-shut case. I had to dive out the way of the bus myself!

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[jerryd6818]

Jerry is correct! I tried those single edge razors at first. One whack and their done and the pin isn't cut.....

Randy if you hadn't cut trail for me, I probably would have tried one of those, even though Dale (I think or it may have been Glenn or somebody else) had already recommended the utility knife blade.

[americanedgetech]

I use a utility knife blade and a hammer. Wedge the edge of the razor blade in the space between the pin and the liner. For the butt pins, pivot and rocker pins. A few whacks with a hammer. The pin is sliced clean through!

........will a single edge razor blade work for cutting the pins???.......... ................

Tommy, if you're talking about these, the answer is no. They are too thin and too brittle.

Single Edge Razor Blade.jpg

If however you are talking about these blades used in razor knives then the answer is yes. As I understand Randy, Dale and Glenn, these are what they prefer.

BRASS pins only.
Steel pins need to be drilled or have the peen ground off (as a generality)

[#goldpan]

I cut steel pins too. Never had an issue cutting pins of all kinds.

[gsmith7158]

The one that Randy just finished for me will fill the bottom right hole!

[americanedgetech]

I cut steel pins too. Never had an issue cutting pins of all kinds.

This is where my anxiety about breaking or cracking handles comes in... I guess I just need more experience on beaters to get comfortable with the whole concept

[rexstubbins]

Randy - That's a real nice job on the restoration

As for single edge razors...

[americanedgetech]

I would love to make a joke about China made steel, but in this case they really do not deserve it...

[carrmillus]

.........go ahead, go for it!!!......... ..................

[#goldpan]

You would be surprised at what you can cut with a utility razor. Here is a link to a knife I did a couple years ago. 1/8 th steel pins. Cut with a razor! : https://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_ ... lonial#top

[americanedgetech]

I would love to make a joke about China made steel, but in this case they really do not deserve it...

.........go ahead, go for it!!!......... ..................

Actually Carmillus... That was the joke... I tried.

You would be surprised at what you can cut with a utility razor. Here is a link to a knife I did a couple years ago. 1/8 th steel pins. Cut with a razor! : https://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_ ... lonial#top

You are quite good at this Randy. I can see your no fear type of approach, and I respect that.

I just need more practice, a few more broken bits, and it will come together.

[#goldpan]

Actually more like ignorance, I simply had no doubt it would do the job. I also have Asperger's its a form of Autism. Not bad for a 60 year old that simply does what I think I needs to be done. Lots of trial and error in my life. That's how I learn! Its tough to learn this way, but once I get something down its mine for life! Plus having spent the last 20 years dealing with sever pain issues involving my hands, neck and back. I need things to work without too much experimenting these days. So after trying lots of ways to cut pins I asked Dale (Orvet) how he did it and that's what I do. Wished I wasnt so stubborn. I should have asked sooner but I have to through the error making before I find my own answer. Or when frustrated enough I ask for help. Kinda like doing everything bass ackwards! Thank goodness for AAPK and all of the friends that I have made here. That Colonial was done shortly after I had my cervical spine fused at C5. Just have to keep busy! Plus too stubborn to rest!

[americanedgetech]

I feel terrible about your health issues, and more so the pain you have to live with.
My pain(s) come from years of motor sports, water, and snow skiing, and free climbing accidents. Combine a daredevil mentality, and no money for hospitals... you get a worn out pile of misaligned bones in a tired body.

I get it!

I think other than health we have a lot in common as far as learning processes go. I have to hear a flowing conversation to actually learn things. Written instruction NEVER sinks in. I can follow audio tutorials tho.
Sooo all that makes for that bass akwards approach you use. Thus my modified chisel attempts. I also bought a 10lb chunk of tool steel for an anvil but I found I need a "Stiddy" with a flange to do what I need to do.

I hope I don't wear out my welcome by asking the most basic questions all over the forum but it is how I learn.
Thanks for putting up w/ me in your thread. The info is more than helpful.

Ps... keep hanging tight. Even when it hurts to build things, the end result is always worth your effort.