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Imperial:The,"King"of knives..........
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Not sure which one you are referring to but I have to make a correction myself:The yellow multi-blade knife is NOT an Imperial;it is marked,"Stainless Steel Japan". Not sure how it got mixed up with my Imperials.
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I think Skip is referring to the Elk Head fixed blade. Both Colonial and Imperial both made some with the similar handles. But the one in the photo doesnt look like it has the crown and looks like Colonial on the tang stamp.knife7knut wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:13 amNot sure which one you are referring to but I have to make a correction myself:The yellow multi-blade knife is NOT an Imperial;it is marked,"Stainless Steel Japan". Not sure how it got mixed up with my Imperials.
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I had a knock-off version of the stacking silverware set. It came in very handy when space was at a premium! One of those key knives showed up on eBay recently; had I awakened a little earlier yesterday, it would be mine.
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Yes Skip you are right grabbed the wrong knife
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Love these old Imperials and used to collect them seriously, here are a few that I've sold off:
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Beautiful old solid bolster Imperials! Thanks for sharing them!
Here is my latest "Hammer Brand";culled from an estate sale today. Had it originally marked at $40 and the second day they drop the prices 25% so I got it for $30. Unusual handle coloring.The blade has been sharpened a bit but still pretty full.
Here is my latest "Hammer Brand";culled from an estate sale today. Had it originally marked at $40 and the second day they drop the prices 25% so I got it for $30. Unusual handle coloring.The blade has been sharpened a bit but still pretty full.
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Those look great. I'll be on the hunt for one eventually.
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I like the old imperials. Cheap but good, true working folks knives. The older ones have rather thin blade grinds that cut and sharpen so easily. Here is a hammer brand stamped imperial.
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How should I deal with the broken plastic (Bakelite?) on this Imperial knife while cleaning it?
It’s rusting under the bolsters and I don’t have any desire to risk taking it all apart for fear of not being able to reassemble it safely.
The pins are obviously steel and it’s been out and used often in its life. Anything special about the bolsters? Is there a yellow predominant MOP? I wouldn’t expect that on an otherwise all steel pocket knife, but I was wrong about thinking my other knife had bone bolsters and not ivory.
Thank you!
It’s rusting under the bolsters and I don’t have any desire to risk taking it all apart for fear of not being able to reassemble it safely.
The pins are obviously steel and it’s been out and used often in its life. Anything special about the bolsters? Is there a yellow predominant MOP? I wouldn’t expect that on an otherwise all steel pocket knife, but I was wrong about thinking my other knife had bone bolsters and not ivory.
Thank you!
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Leo H wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:32 pm How should I deal with the broken plastic (Bakelite?) on this Imperial knife while cleaning it?
It’s rusting under the bolsters and I don’t have any desire to risk taking it all apart for fear of not being able to reassemble it safely.
The pins are obviously steel and it’s been out and used often in its life. Anything special about the bolsters? Is there a yellow predominant MOP? I wouldn’t expect that on an otherwise all steel pocket knife, but I was wrong about thinking my other knife had bone bolsters and not ivory.
Thank you!
I believe you are mistakenly referring to the handle covers as bolsters.
Bolsters are the metal ends of the handles. Actually the bottom one is called and end cap, but most of us call them bolsters also.
They "bolster" the strength of the pivot area.
The handle covers on your knife are celluloid and they are outgassing.
If you want to save the knife you need to remove them and replace with a different type of material.
If not removed the outgassing celluloid will destroy the entire knife.
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Wow. Fascinating! That certainly is what looks like what is happening with that knife. Thank you foredge213 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:19 pmLeo H wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:32 pm How should I deal with the broken plastic (Bakelite?) on this Imperial knife while cleaning it?
It’s rusting under the bolsters and I don’t have any desire to risk taking it all apart for fear of not being able to reassemble it safely.
The pins are obviously steel and it’s been out and used often in its life. Anything special about the bolsters? Is there a yellow predominant MOP? I wouldn’t expect that on an otherwise all steel pocket knife, but I was wrong about thinking my other knife had bone bolsters and not ivory.
Thank you!
I believe you are mistakenly referring to the handle covers as bolsters.
Bolsters are the metal ends of the handles. Actually the bottom one is called and end cap, but most of us call them bolsters also.
They "bolster" the strength of the pivot area.
The handle covers on your knife are celluloid and they are outgassing.
If you want to save the knife you need to remove them and replace with a different type of material.
If not removed the outgassing celluloid will destroy the entire knife.
the explanation. I guess, that makes this example a good practice restoration experience.
I will remember the difference between bolsters and handles.
What causes the celluloid to degrade some knives and not others? Environment?
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Probably several dozen factors lead to outgassing, most of them unknowable. Slight differences in the chemical makeup between different batches? Humidity? Oils? Feng shui?Leo H wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:47 pmWow. Fascinating! That certainly is what looks like what is happening with that knife. Thank you foredge213 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:19 pmLeo H wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:32 pm How should I deal with the broken plastic (Bakelite?) on this Imperial knife while cleaning it?
It’s rusting under the bolsters and I don’t have any desire to risk taking it all apart for fear of not being able to reassemble it safely.
The pins are obviously steel and it’s been out and used often in its life. Anything special about the bolsters? Is there a yellow predominant MOP? I wouldn’t expect that on an otherwise all steel pocket knife, but I was wrong about thinking my other knife had bone bolsters and not ivory.
Thank you!
I believe you are mistakenly referring to the handle covers as bolsters.
Bolsters are the metal ends of the handles. Actually the bottom one is called and end cap, but most of us call them bolsters also.
They "bolster" the strength of the pivot area.
The handle covers on your knife are celluloid and they are outgassing.
If you want to save the knife you need to remove them and replace with a different type of material.
If not removed the outgassing celluloid will destroy the entire knife.
the explanation. I guess, that makes this example a good practice restoration experience.
I will remember the difference between bolsters and handles.
What causes the celluloid to degrade some knives and not others? Environment?
There is much debate on the subject, but most everyone agrees that once it starts there is no way to stop it.
That is a nice Imperial, by the way. It is definitely worth saving!
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Leo H wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:47 pmWow. Fascinating! That certainly is what looks like what is happening with that knife. Thank you foredge213 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:19 pmLeo H wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:32 pm How should I deal with the broken plastic (Bakelite?) on this Imperial knife while cleaning it?
It’s rusting under the bolsters and I don’t have any desire to risk taking it all apart for fear of not being able to reassemble it safely.
The pins are obviously steel and it’s been out and used often in its life. Anything special about the bolsters? Is there a yellow predominant MOP? I wouldn’t expect that on an otherwise all steel pocket knife, but I was wrong about thinking my other knife had bone bolsters and not ivory.
Thank you!
I believe you are mistakenly referring to the handle covers as bolsters.
Bolsters are the metal ends of the handles. Actually the bottom one is called and end cap, but most of us call them bolsters also.
They "bolster" the strength of the pivot area.
The handle covers on your knife are celluloid and they are outgassing.
If you want to save the knife you need to remove them and replace with a different type of material.
If not removed the outgassing celluloid will destroy the entire knife.
the explanation. I guess, that makes this example a good practice restoration experience.
I will remember the difference between bolsters and handles.
What causes the celluloid to degrade some knives and not others? Environment?
Instead of answering your question it would be easier if you would use the search option to search outgassing.
There is a ton of information on AAPK about this subject.
David
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All right then, sounds like the one to learn on.Reverand wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:43 amProbably several dozen factors lead to outgassing, most of them unknowable. Slight differences in the chemical makeup between different batches? Humidity? Oils? Feng shui?Leo H wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:47 pmWow. Fascinating! That certainly is what looks like what is happening with that knife. Thank you foredge213 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:19 pm
I believe you are mistakenly referring to the handle covers as bolsters.
Bolsters are the metal ends of the handles. Actually the bottom one is called and end cap, but most of us call them bolsters also.
They "bolster" the strength of the pivot area.
The handle covers on your knife are celluloid and they are outgassing.
If you want to save the knife you need to remove them and replace with a different type of material.
If not removed the outgassing celluloid will destroy the entire knife.
the explanation. I guess, that makes this example a good practice restoration experience.
I will remember the difference between bolsters and handles.
What causes the celluloid to degrade some knives and not others? Environment?
There is much debate on the subject, but most everyone agrees that once it starts there is no way to stop it.
That is a nice Imperial, by the way. It is definitely worth saving!
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will do.edge213 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:59 amLeo H wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:47 pmWow. Fascinating! That certainly is what looks like what is happening with that knife. Thank you foredge213 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:19 pm
I believe you are mistakenly referring to the handle covers as bolsters.
Bolsters are the metal ends of the handles. Actually the bottom one is called and end cap, but most of us call them bolsters also.
They "bolster" the strength of the pivot area.
The handle covers on your knife are celluloid and they are outgassing.
If you want to save the knife you need to remove them and replace with a different type of material.
If not removed the outgassing celluloid will destroy the entire knife.
the explanation. I guess, that makes this example a good practice restoration experience.
I will remember the difference between bolsters and handles.
What causes the celluloid to degrade some knives and not others? Environment?
Instead of answering your question it would be easier if you would use the search option to search outgassing.
There is a ton of information on AAPK about this subject.
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A few older solid construction knives with IKCO and Imperial stamps.
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Here is one of the nicest IMPERIAL knives I have seen. The blades are the same HAMMER FORGED as the KEEN KUTTER on page 375 in Sargents 3rd edition Knives & Razors. Check this out.
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Thought I would revive this thread with my newest Imperial:found at the local flea market and marked "Imperial Ireland" it is a double lock back with a saw blade for a secondary. The unusual thing is the lock mechanism:buttons located at the front of the knife next to the blade wells.I'm not sure how this will work out in use as when you grip the knife your index finger lays right across both lock releases.
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Dang nab it Ray, you've got me needing to start collect Imps again; baaaaaaad boy!
Wonderful ole knives y'all are showing.
Wonderful ole knives y'all are showing.
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I posted these elsewhere, but it was suggested that I also post them here.
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Thanks again for posting those David;they are some beautiful examples!
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Thank you sir.knife7knut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:02 am Thanks again for posting those David;they are some beautiful examples!
David
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