Miller Bros. 1863-1926

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Re: Miller Bros. 1863-1926

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Monte that looks like a modern stamp to me.The end of the letters are rounded. Old stamps the letters are square at the ends.Also I can see remnants of another stamp on the master.
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Thanks Roger I noticed the O and the S also. I will be taking this one back to the previous owner. I have more that I will post later
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Nice Miller Brothers are hard to find.Same is true for Empires.I like both. ::tu::
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Monte thanks for posting the additional pictures, what a difference in clarity!

I agree with Roger that is not an original Miller bro's stamp.

For many years there have been those in the knife collecting world that have been preaching "read the knife" not​ what the stamp happens to say.

I say read the entire knife including what the stamp happens to say.

You cannot discount the tang stamp it offers a lot of clues to authenticity of a knife. It seems what knife counterfeiters are doing now is they will use the frame from an old authentic knife and put more valuable counterfeit blades from a desirable brand like Miller bro's.

There's a ton of counterfeit Miller bro's knives out there, as demand increases supply will follow and you will see more enter the market place. A fellow member here (justbob) sent me a bag full of counterfeit Miller bro's knife blades all made long after Miller was out of business. Be careful out there.
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Thank you Dimitri, Beechtree, and Roger. Thanks to all here at AAPK and Brian for making it all happen. I found another that I have with the same tang stamp. Actually the first Miller Bro's knife I bought. Oh well, I will post it in the counterfeit thread. I was up half of the night eye balling my Miller bros. I believe most belong in the battered and beat up thread. But I have a few that I think belong here. I will post them in the weeks to come. If anyone finds something wrong. Please speak up and let me know. I want to learn as much as I'm able.

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I want to congratulate you on your positive attitude Monte. It is always hard to hear a knife one has is not authentic, but it has happened to all of us. As for not being able to see the photos, I am not quite sure why, I will try to post them again. In the photo, the 5 stamps on the left (vertical) are authentic, the 3 on the right are modern (horizontal)

Here is a collection of Miller Bros federal style shields, of 4 varieties, in addition to Ralph’s and the ones found on the next two knives I post, which seem to be of the most common.
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Here is a lovely coke bottle jack with the federal shield type that I refer to above as seeming to be the most common.
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Here is a jumbo sleeveboard measuring 3 5/8"
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A couple of fine knives Beechtree! ::tu::
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Thanks Beechtree, I am a lil disappointed in the two I know are fake. But I'm learning and I hope to always be learning. This will make me a better collector. I will continue to collect miller bros knives. I dont give up easily and I am determined to have a great miller bros collection. I can see the photos you posted now and will study and remember them so that hopefully I will not make this mistake again. ::handshake::

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peanut740 wrote:A couple of fine knives Beechtree! ::tu::
Thanks Roger! They warm the cockles of my hart :D
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Those two are great, I really like the ebony handles!
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Thanks Dimitri! I love ebony handles.
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Here is one I got at the Dalton Knife Show last week.Large 4 blade congress that is 4 1/16".Etched Miller 1863 Brand.
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WOW Roger that is one sweet knife!!!
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It doesn't get any better than that one Roger. Looks even better in person. ::tu:: ::tu::

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Nice Roger, that is a Fantastic knife 8)
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Roger, Man thats a great knife. That etch and shield. It's awesome ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::


Thanks for posting Monte
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Here is couple more that I have
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Very nice Monte ::tu:: They both exude vintage quality and are very rare to find in this condition--I know I have looked and continue looking ::uc:: Thanks for posting these nice photos. Lloyd
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Nice rope knife, Monte, and very nice old jack. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks Lloyd and Joe, I am always looking for old knives in any condition. But I am trying to hold off on the ones that are too beat up.

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olderdogs1 wrote:It doesn't get any better than that one Roger. Looks even better in person. ::tu:: ::tu::

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Just back from the Oregon Knife Show or OKCA show in Eugene. Had a wonderful time! On seller setup day (members only) I was walking the aisles scanning tables and asking sellers (who by the way are a very patient and friendly bunch) if they had any vintage Miller Brothers knives. Mind you this was as they were setting up there tables and busy. Most said no but one gentlemen said he thought he did. Said he got it recently at a knife show back east somewhere. He then proceeded to dive into his plastic boxes and knife rolls all the while my anticipation growing ::nod:: He emerged after a few minutes with this folding knife. As I took it from his hand I was hoping it would prove to be a desirable specimen. A Miller Brothers swell center split back Whittler pattern folder. It is 3 & 3/8 inches closed. It has a primary spear blade with long pull and two smaller blades--a long pull pen and a cuticle/nail file. All blades are in good condition although sharpened (with the exception of the file) and the blades have some minor blade loss but not bad. It has superb walk and talk from all blades and none have the slightest hint of any lateral blade movement or wobble. The two smaller blades have half stops the larger primary does not. All transitions are buttery smooth and even the screws are just perfectly set with only the very slightest hint or feel when rubbing fingers over handles. Brass liners. Handles look like Ivory to me but could be celluloid but I do not think so. Has taken on the yellow color of aged Ivory. This folder exhibits remarkable craftsmanship and I am very pleased to add it to my collection. Thanks for loooking, Lloyd
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I don't know much about Miller Bros knives. But I know I like that little whittler. ::tu::

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