Old Cattle Knives

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Thanks,I appreciate it fellas. It's a stout knife with excellent snap on all blades.
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Jdub, that is a great looking knife!
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And it's a Robeson.

Nice one.

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Beautiful Robeson examples posted recently. Here are a couple that Charlie RobesonsRme helped me add to my pile of Cattle knives.

With the Robeson ShurEdge U.S.A stamp, I have a very difficult time knowing if a knife is before 1940 or after 1940. I believe the Carpenters Choice knife is pre-1940 because the word ShurEdge is mixed case instead of all uppercase letters.
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1940's Camillus #70 Cattle knife
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Good solid 4 blade Cattle knife there Scott. I wonder what the significance is of shield being on side opposite to front of master blade ?
Anyone know ?
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Jerry, your Carpenter's Choice dates 1916 to 1939 and the punch knife 1922 to 1939, according to the research from Tom Kalcevic in Knives Can Talk.
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Winchester #3950 Cattle knife...
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Wostenholm calls this a Farmer's knife but it looks similar to many of the Cattle knives shown. Perhaps a variation on the theme.
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Dave, beautiful old Winchester cattle knife. ::tu::

SK, your Wostenholm Farmers knife shares many properties (equal end, punch, etc.) with my understanding of a Cattle knife. It is a little fancier with the slanted bolsters :)
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RalphAlsip wrote:Dave, beautiful old Winchester cattle knife. ::tu::
Thank you! It's my first Winchester. I've waited on picking one up, until I was sure it was not a fake. I had heard that Bernard Levine had said that 9 out of 10 Winchester knives on eBay are fakes. I got my 3950 from a knowledgeable collector and have confidence that it is real. And I'm a Winchester rifle aficionado, so this brand of collectible knife, really appeals to me. This whole fake/counterfeit knife dilemma really bothers me. I've decided that, until I get a lot better at understanding the details, I'm avoiding eBay and only going to buy from legitimate knife experts that can authenticate a valuable knife.
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Nice IXL cattle! ::tu:: Here is another one with a surprise in the third pic.
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Cal, beautiful IXL. Looks like it's a cattle knife AND a whittler. ::tu::
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That's unusual Cal. I like it! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Cal, very interesting, good surprise, nice knife! ::tu::
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RalphAlsip wrote:Cal, beautiful IXL. Looks like it's a cattle knife AND a whittler. ::tu::
Case also made a Cattle / Whittler variation with a split backspring. The pattern is 6345 1/2 SAB. This is the rarest configuration of the Case 45 Cattle knife. The 6345 1/2 SAB examples I have are very susceptible to blade rub and don't open and close as smoothly as the typical 45 pattern blade configuration. Maybe this is the reason why they didn't make very many.
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tongueriver wrote:Nice IXL cattle! ::tu:: Here is another one with a surprise in the third pic.
A cattler! Very nice. ::tu::
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Great cattle knives all. It is interesting to see SK's 4 blade then toungrivers cattler as Tsar Bomba calls it ;)

Pretty Case, Ralph. Thanks for sharing it.

Also, KJ that one is a dandy!
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Beautiful whittler, tongueriver, as is Jerrys. ::tu:: ::tu::
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I was able to take some better pictures today, of the Winchester 3950 Cattle knife...
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Dave, regarding ebay: i spend some time most days searching various knife brands and patterns on ebay. It is a source of learning as over time you will have seen a wide range of knives & knife patterns. The more you see, the more opportunity to learn.
Also there are many honest, helpful, knife collectors who are also ebay knife sellers. I have obtained many fine knives on ebay often for a price strongly in my favor. Moreover, all these sellers will accept return if you don't like the knife once it's received. These sellers want happy customers and give much better 'service' than you would get in a 'bricks & mortar' store. With this type of seller obtaining a knife on ebay is as safe as it gets.
If you want a list of a few of these top notch knife sellers, pm or email me.
And even the most experienced collector gets fooled at times, so while buying from other collectors(directly, not ebay) is 'safe', it is still not quite a 100% guarantee of an all original knife.
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kootenay joe wrote:Dave, regarding ebay: i spend some time most days searching various knife brands and patterns on ebay. It is a source of learning as over time you will have seen a wide range of knives & knife patterns. The more you see, the more opportunity to learn.
Also there are many honest, helpful, knife collectors who are also ebay knife sellers. I have obtained many fine knives on ebay often for a price strongly in my favor. Moreover, all these sellers will accept return if you don't like the knife once it's received. These sellers want happy customers and give much better 'service' than you would get in a 'bricks & mortar' store. With this type of seller obtaining a knife on ebay is as safe as it gets.
If you want a list of a few of these top notch knife sellers, pm or email me.
And even the most experienced collector gets fooled at times, so while buying from other collectors(directly, not ebay) is 'safe', it is still not quite a 100% guarantee of an all original knife.
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Duly noted kj! Thanks!

Still, every time I look at Case knives on eBay, I think they're fakes. :lol: I think I've been reading our Counterfeit Watch sub-forum too much.
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With Case knives there are quite a few fakes, knives that have been altered. Lots of other fine old USA brands to look at.
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CheckSix wrote:Still, every time I look at Case knives on eBay, I think they're fakes. :lol:
Dave, if you've got the stomach for collecting Winchester knives, then collecting Case knives should be duck soup for you. (lol)
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RalphAlsip wrote:
CheckSix wrote:Still, every time I look at Case knives on eBay, I think they're fakes. :lol:
Dave, if you've got the stomach for collecting Winchester knives, then collecting Case knives should be duck soup for you. (lol)
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Good point!
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