Farmer's Jacks

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Great grouping of Farmers Jacks Lyle! Hope you and Jan are doing well.
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Lyle, super group of Farmer’s Jack knives.
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Lovely group of FJs Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Schrade made some nice FJs as shown in your group ::nod:: - among the many makers did they seem to make more than the others with a greater selection of handles etc??
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Thanks John, Jerry, and Lee.
Jan’s over cancer treatments, dealing with knee replacement which is painful. She’s toughing it out.

Lee, great question.
Schrade came later than many and lasted longer, but yes they seem to be the most prolific in circulation.

What you see is all I know they produced except for a stag shadow pattern of EA’s which he promised me a picture of. :shock: :shock: :) It came out of a collection from a manufacturing executive. We think it’s probably special.

Schrade’s selection may be greater than any other manufacturer I know of, with Wostenholm right there too.

Schrades:
2 Shadow patterns , one in French ivory and the other in fibestos.

Regular rat tailed bolstered versions in bone, French ivory, and black composition.

Also making the bone version with the beefier pruner and bark loosener.

Wostenholm I expect had a longer tenure than Schrade.
Wostenholm had bolstered stag, bone, French ivory, and black composition.
Bolstered less rat tailed stag and black composition.
Also a gardener’s version ( which I don’t have or have seen other than in a catalog) with a bark opener. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more.
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wlf wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:52 am Thanks John, Jerry, and Lee.
Jan’s over cancer treatments, dealing with knee replacement which is painful. She’s toughing it out.

Lee, great question.
Schrade came later than many and lasted longer, but yes they seem to be the most prolific in circulation.

What you see is all I know they produced except for a stag shadow pattern of EA’s which he promised me a picture of. :shock: :shock: :) It came out of a collection from a manufacturing executive. We think it’s probably special.

Schrade’s selection may be greater than any other manufacturer I know of, with Wostenholm right there too.

Schrades:
2 Shadow patterns , one in French ivory and the other in fibestos.

Regular rat tailed bolstered versions in bone, French ivory, and black composition.

Also making the bone version with the beefier pruner and bark loosener.

Wostenholm I expect had a longer tenure than Schrade.
Wostenholm had bolstered stag, bone, French ivory, and black composition.
Non- bolstered stag and black composition.
Also a gardener’s version ( which I don’t have or have seen other than in a catalog) with a bark opener. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more.
Glad to hear Jan is over cancer treatments and wishing her a speedy recovery from the knee replacement !!!

Great info Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... very informative and a nice perspective of FJs to store in my noggin' :D ...
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I messed up Lee. Wostenholm’s versions all had bolsters that I know of, but they made stag and black composition without rat tails.
My information is from my experience, not absolute fact. It’s true until it’s not. :D
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Thought I would repost this knife in a few places to get other opinions. I find the master blade a Sheffield peculiarity.I thought at first ,someone might have altered a pruning blade, but upon inspection the kick doesn't appear to be altered. This would have to be done to allow the blade seated inside the framework.

Normal farmers jacks with this blade edge would peek out above the frame. Opinions, insights.
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That's some gorgeous stag, Lyle!

Those blades look fine to me but I'm not the Farmer Jack guy, sometimes I am farmer John though. :wink:
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Long funny sheepsfoot.
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wlf wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:02 pm Thought I would repost this knife in a few places to get other opinions. I find the master blade a Sheffield peculiarity.I thought at first ,someone might have altered a pruning blade, but upon inspection the kick doesn't appear to be altered. This would have to be done to allow the blade seated inside the framework.

Normal farmers jacks with this blade edge would peek out above the frame. Opinions, insights.
The master is abit peculiar Lyle ::hmm:: ... Just doesn't look right to me - it looks like it had a good cleaning by a professional at some point and maybe a reshaping?? Nonetheless not a hawkbill and not really a sheep foot so not sure what to call the blade - a hawk foot :lol: :lol: - maybe an original one of a kind FJ master blade :) ... Perhaps the kick isn't altered though I think it may have been possible if it was ground on a slight angle to flow into the tang - but I find it strange that there are no choils on the blades - the kick is slightly down on the spey blade.. It is certainly puzzling based on the master blade ::nod:: ..
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Thanks again John and Lee. I believe it was made that way, both blades seem full albeit cleaned.
Been suggested that it could have been special order.
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Lyle, the master kind of reminds me of a rope knife blade.
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All I have to add to what you fellers already have pondered, it that it is a gorgeous old knife! :mrgreen:
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Nice to see these again. Going to the Gator show this winter?
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Lyle, You are the most dedicated, focused knife collector, with an amazing collection.
This is the only farmer's jack I have kept over the years. I posted photos on Blade Forum a few years back. It's 4 1/4 closed with a folding Ivory budding blade. The master blade is stamped W.G. WHITING / 6 MARKET STREET / MANCHESTER. Likely a retail outfit. Look's like it was made in Sheffield?
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Thanks Willy for looking and commenting.

My wife’s had a tough year D, she’s wanting to take a warm vacation after the holidays. I’d like to see you and Mike again. Maybe.

Barry, you’ve got your own spectacular collection. I think I have emailed you enquiring about that knife before. Thanks for the kind words.
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wlf wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:02 pm Thought I would repost this knife in a few places to get other opinions. I find the master blade a Sheffield peculiarity.I thought at first ,someone might have altered a pruning blade, but upon inspection the kick doesn't appear to be altered. This would have to be done to allow the blade seated inside the framework.

Normal farmers jacks with this blade edge would peek out above the frame. Opinions, insights.
Lyle, here is a page from Maher and Grosh pamphlet, posted by Olde Cutler in the catalog pages thread, back on Nov 1. I hope he does not mind me reposting it to this thread. It shows a similar knife to yours, calling it a budding and grafting knife. Not a Sheffield knife, but still very similar. It is shown on the second post in the attached link.

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Thanks Dan ,they are similar. Grinders varied on all the pruning blades I've seen. :) . I wonder who made those M&G knives advertised? Maybe Roger knows ?
I have that M&G ad too. I am pretty sure it's an original blade and a budding and grafting blade too.
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I cleaned up my old Utica some what. Food grade mineral oil, 0000 steel wool lots of elbow grease and working out the grime from the joints. Has a good amount of snap and spring tension now. I love it, I don't have anything else like it in the collection.
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wlf wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:19 pm Thanks Dan ,they are similar. Grinders varied on all the pruning blades I've seen. :) . I wonder who made those M&G knives advertised? Maybe Roger knows ?
I have that M&G ad too. I am pretty sure it's an original blade and a budding and grafting blade too.
At 75¢ each I'm going to order up a few 100, I'll make sure you get one. :wink:
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Me too John. :)

Might as well show the spey blade too Dan, and have that knife in another picture by itself. :)
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wlf wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:19 pm Thanks Dan ,they are similar. Grinders varied on all the pruning blades I've seen. :) . I wonder who made those M&G knives advertised? Maybe Roger knows ?
I have that M&G ad too. I am pretty sure it's an original blade and a budding and grafting blade too.
Looking again, I believe the M&G knife is smaller than your regular farmer jacks. The cut says it is shown actual size. Assuming a width of about 11" for the page, measuring off my computer screen and doing a ratio calculation, I get the M&G knife at about 3 1/2".
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Nice Utica, Pile Driver! ::tu:: Full blade and great bone!
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danno50 wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:10 am
wlf wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:19 pm Thanks Dan ,they are similar. Grinders varied on all the pruning blades I've seen. :) . I wonder who made those M&G knives advertised? Maybe Roger knows ?
I have that M&G ad too. I am pretty sure it's an original blade and a budding and grafting blade too.
Looking again, I believe the M&G knife is smaller than your regular farmer jacks. The cut says it is shown actual size. Assuming a width of about 11" for the page, measuring off my computer screen and doing a ratio calculation, I get the M&G knife at about 3 1/2".
Yes , that’s about right. I think one came up for sale and I didn’t bid, Roger C was going to bid on it.

But the point being, those blades were used on some budding and pruning knives instead of a hawkbill.
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Re: Farmer's Jacks

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The eBay description when it was sold said almost 4". I remember it smaller too. ? We could ask Roger.
Here's pictures of it Dan:
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