All Metal Handle Knives

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If you look closely there's no discernible pattern, the divots are so random that it makes sense they were done by hand. I don't know how many they made as I've only ever seen the exact pic you posted which I have in my Imgur account and then mine which is generic and ready to be engraved. Look closely at the scales and you'll see what I mean. I'm a fabricator machinist by trade and to do a few hundred like this by hand wouldn't take very long for an SFO.

Usually when things are stamped they're duplicated on the next piece, I'll have to compare the ARPEAKO and my First Prize to see if there's a common patern, it should be visible if that's the case.
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AREMINGTONSEDGE wrote:Here's a trivia question for ya Charlie. There was an episode in M.A.S.H. when Father Mulcahy had to perform a trach on an injured mate and did so,(under the guidance of Hawkeye via walkie talkie) with a pocket knife and by inserting the end of a pen thus acting as the cannula. What was the pocket knife he more than likely used? Any takers? ::tu:: Rocky

Is 5&1/2 years a long enough wait for the answer? :shock: :mrgreen:
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It was a Tom Mix Pocket knife, could have been this Camillus I'm not certain. I'm still lookin'.

Here's the season and episode of MASH it was in.

Season 5 Episode 8 (“Mulcahy’s War”) where a soldier with “shell shock” refuses to talk to Father Mulcahy because he doesn’t understand what it’s like to be in combat. The Padre hijacks Radar to go up to a forward aide station to transport a wounded soldier, and on the way back, has to perform an emergency tracheotomy with his Tom Mix pocket knife while being shelled by the enemy.
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Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturers Galazan Sidelock knife, using the side plate from an A-10 shotgun.
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That looks like a fine Sunday knife Ted. ::tu::
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Thanks for the info, Ted.

I never really watched MASH that often. Work always conflicted when it was on and I never really got into taping TV shows.
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Sometimes all you have to date a knife is by the advertising on it. The link and info below dated this knife somewhere between 1896-1907 at the very least it's 110 years old at the most 121 years old. Looks pretty good for 120 year old knife. :) I'll have to take a picture of the blades, they're both full blades

This is an example of what's still out there in boxes at yard sales and flea markets for a couple of $ Also it shows how powerful of a tool the internet is in identifying and important any information can be in putting a date to a knife.

http://www.ritchiewiki.com/wiki/index.p ... ry_Company: The manager of Copp Brothers, bought the company out in 1896 and renamed it Good Roads Machinery Company, not to be confused with the sales agents of the same name for American Road Machinery. Challen's firm failed in 1907, and he became a salesman for American Road Machinery, which apparently acquired the firm's assets.

A new group of investors bought the former Challen firm in 1908 and reorganized it as Canadian Road Machine Company Ltd.
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An expensive pile of metal. ;)
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A couple of more.

Early 80s Cold Steel Urban Pal, (back when Lynn still had good manufactures makin' his knives in Japan.
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Another Oldie from about 100 years ago, Robeson hand Hammered German Silver pocket bar knife.
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Finally a Custom David Winston Damascus Keyring Knife.
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Nice knives Ted ::tu:: ::tu:: ....

I posted this unique and rare to find Billings & Spencer all metal knife yesterday along with background in the General Discussion but no doubt belongs here as well. Knurled metal handle and sliding pin mechanism for this combination knife screw driver. B&S only made knives from 1890-1914 and this knife has both the 1892 and 1896 patent dates. It was marketed towards sportsman as noted in this Forest and Stream ad from 1903 -
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Not the prettiest knife in the world :) but durable...

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Great "Advertisers" Ted. ::nod::
Like you, I'll spend a long time researching the history of an advertiser.

Lee: Imagine all the work and numerous people involved in producing that "Billings & Spencer" ::hmm::
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Picked up this Wolfertz, pretty solid old knife.
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Yes it is John,wouldn't want to drop it on your toes.
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Here’s a few of my favorite all metal queens. A joe z original cock fighting knife, a very old sterling Schatt with a mechanical pencil tube on the side and a rare Queen City metal knife (body is all one heavy piece)
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Here's a Robeson with aluminum handles.
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Here's a Robert Klaas with all steel handles.
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FRJ wrote:Here's a Robert Klaas with all steel handles.
That is a couple of nice knives Joe, wonder how old they are? I don't have many knives yet, but I do have a few metal handles I will have to post here. Thanks for sharing.
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Nice knives Joe ::tu:: ::tu:: ... That melon tester with metal handles must have been a top of the line pattern is my guess - I haven't seen many of that pattern with fancy nice handles like your Klaas (sweet 8) ) though I would guess others may exist - just haven't seen any :) ...
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Thank you, Bill.
I would be hard pressed to guess an age.

Thank you, Lee.
I have never seen a melon tester like this one. This one may have come over on a boat. :)
It's kind of weighty. So nice to see you posting, Pal. ::tu::
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A Miller bros boys knife
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FRJ wrote:Here's a Robert Klaas with all steel handles.
Unusual one Joe, I like it ::tu::
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ludwig26 wrote:A Miller bros boys knife
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8) ::tu:: ::tu::
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ludwig26 wrote:A Miller bros boys knife
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Very nice, thanks for sharing.
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Thank you, Dimitri.
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A Switchblade knife.
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