Old and Obscure Brands

[Oledadsknives]

Yea thanks J.O. I kinda thought it might be tortoise.

Is it correct to call it a congress whittler? Haven’t seen a lot of those around.

Jimbo

[Ridgegrass]

That's what I'd call it. Names can be subjective and all over the place. Take a mountain lion, jaguar, puma, cougar, catomount, wildcat, panther, etc. All the same thing. I've seen cattle knives posted as stockmen and vice versa. I like to call them what the catalogs called them if I can find the original ads. J.O'.

[peanut740]

Jimbo,your knife is not an original Kane Cutlery. Stamp is modern.The small blades would have also been stamped.Handles show shrinkage,which indicates celluloid.Bolster pins are a different color that usually means German made.The wide tangs on the small blades are similar to what you see on Bulldogs.Probably a Parker import from the 1980's- 90's made by Olbertz in Germany.

[Oledadsknives]

Roger & J.O. I just realized that myself. I looked it up on eBay and they have one just like it for sale. I thought it might be original but oh well. Got to get a later model book. I’ll try to delete that post. Thanks!

Jimbo

[Ridgegrass]

Too bad. Picture took me in too. Don't care much for fakers and re-makers. J.O'.

[Oledadsknives]

Me neither J.O.

Jimbo

[Oledadsknives]

Ok, I’m gonna give this old and obscure thread another go after bothching that Kane cutlery post. I’ve got a Concord Cutlery Co. pearl handled custom pen knife that all my book shows to have been in business circa 1880. I also found online 1910-1930. Most likely a Sheffield Co. but not sure. Alright, here comes my photos. Any comments very welcome.

[Oledadsknives]

I’m also posting a Herbert Robinson pen knife made in Sheffield with striated bone handles. From what I’m reading in business 1873-1953. My price says circa 1873. There is an etch in the main blade with a fella at a grinder and it says hand forged on both blade tangs. Didn’t see this co. On the list.

[edge213]

I’m also posting a Herbert Robinson pen knife made in Sheffield with striated bone handles. From what I’m reading in business 1873-1953. My price says circa 1873. There is an etch in the main blade with a fella at a grinder and it says hand forged on both blade tangs. Didn’t see this co. On the list.FCFAB49B-E112-4592-B52D-D070DFD2AB35.jpeg88ED4F68-EFFD-49DF-BB7C-5C2BBC039D92.jpeg8E3A2204-220F-4819-95D3-45F19823DEF7.jpeg289DED64-17B4-4FF3-842F-C34CA32F0464.jpeg

Really cool old knife.
I don't know what "striated bone" is, but in the pictures this looks like french ivory celluloid to me.

[Oledadsknives]

Hey David thanks for the comments. My dad always called yellowish bone or celluloid with straight lines in it striated bone. Probably is celluloid though. I don’t know where he got that term from but I guess that’s where I got it. This knife seems to have a broken pin. No snap and 1 blade won’t close all the way but still a fine old knife.

[luckydog64]

Here are 4 Tryons to add to this topic.

[Oledadsknives]

Here are 4 Tryons to add to this topic.

Wow, never honestly heard of a tryon but I am glad I got to see these 4 great ones of yours!! Very nice!

Jimbo

[RobesonsRme.com]

Some great obscure branded knives added here lately.

Roger, that TTC coke bottle jack is very suggestive of Robeson.

[RobesonsRme.com]

A previous discussion here re’ TTC:

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=52853

Someone mentioned True Temper there.

Was there ever a connection between SR&Co and True Temper?

[Ridgegrass]

Jimbo: Edw. K.Tryon was a big Philadelphia hardware firm with its own knife brand. The knives were contracted from big makers like UTICA. The big English Jack below is a Tryon, probably by UTICA. It's almost 5 inches. Great shield, eh? J.O.

[luckydog64]

Thanks oledadsknives. They specialized in sporting goods mainly guns.

[Oledadsknives]

Jimbo: Edw. K.Tryon was a big Philadelphia hardware firm with its own knife brand. The knives were contracted from big makers like UTICA. The big English Jack below is a Tryon, probably by UTICA. It's almost 5 inches. Great shield, eh? J.O.

Nice knife and a real handfull for sure!! Thanks for the co. Info J.O.
Jimbo

[Oledadsknives]

Want to go ahead and post this Wade Wingfield Rowbotham. Has 3 blades but the pen blade is broken unfortunately but still shows the maker. Handles could have been changed (can’t tell) but the guts are still there. Jimbo

[Ridgegrass]

I posted this little knife on the Q & A thread that has, of all things, an "earwax spoon". I don't even want to think about what that little fork on your knife is for!!!!!
J.O'.

[Ridgegrass]

CORRECTION; I said Edw. K.Tryon was a hardware firm. It, in fact, was a very large Sporting goods outlet. My apologies. J.O'.

[RobesonsRme.com]

The fork on the Rowbottham is a cigar fork. It allows one to continue to smoke a cigar that has gotten too short to hold in one’s fingers.

And I doubt the pearl handles have been changed. That would be extremely difficult.

[Oledadsknives]

Thanks for the info j.o. And Robeson. That fork stabbed me a couple times cleaning it. I’m calling it a blood seeker!! Old timey roach clip for cigars, ha! I’ve been wondering what it’s for and that makes sense. I think You are right about the handles too Robeson. Be very hard to change and they look great. Hate the blade is broke!

Jimbo

[peanut740]

Only one of these I've come across. ABS,Atlanta Barber Supply.Goins shows c.1920-25.I'd say pre WWI because of steel pins,liners and bolsters.

[Oledadsknives]

That’s a fine old knife Roger, like those bones for sure!!

Jimbo

[Ridgegrass]

Posted this in "Knife Finds...". Thought I'd share it here. BROCH & Co., N.Y., c. 1885 . White bone, brass pins, with 11 tiny stars,(silver?) inlaid on the mark side. 2-1/2", shadow pen. Really beautiful shape. Pre-tariff, no country of origin stamp, possibly German as BROCH was an importer. Like to know more about them if anyone has any info. Thanks, J.O;.