Old and Obscure Brands

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Nice knife TF
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My entry, this HOLLINGER FREMONT whittler.
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I think this one merits mentioning. I'm guessing it's a Geo Schrade wire handle knife. I have a nice group of Geo Schrade wire handle knives and the tang stamps, while not all the same, all say GEO SCHRADE. This one doesn't and it also does not say where it was manufactured. ::shrug:: Anyway, here it is.
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That patent date should yield some information re’ its maker.

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RobesonsRme.com wrote:That patent date should yield some information re’ its maker.
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That is why I believe it to be a Geo Schrade, the patent date. Here is the tang stamp of one of my other Geo Schrade wire handle knives.
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Here is a 2 3/4" 4 blade senator with all four blades marked: "Chatham/Cutlery/Sheffield". All blades have long pulls that go to the tang and all have half stops. Blade action is smooth, all snaps are crisp and there is no play anywhere. Well made !
I think handles are bone but they could be horn. There are 4 'ease outs' for easy access to pulls.
The pivot pins are a different metal from the bolsters. Usually this is a sign of a German made knife, but not always.
Neither Levine nor Goins mentions this brand. As there is no country name it could be older than 1891.
My thought is that this is a contract knife made in Germany for a business (cutlery or otherwise) in Sheffield and then sold as a Sheffield knife. Bernard Levine has described this practice and said it was not common but did occur as the cost of knife making at the time was lower in Solingen than in Sheffield.
Have you seen other examples of this brand ?
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FRJ wrote:While looking through some folding toothpicks and fish knives to find one made in New York state I found one.
But where in New York state I have no idea and neither does Goin's. I was hoping to find one to place it in the "Little Sheffield"
thread.

This stamp reads; A.A. Fisher Co., N.Y.
Goin's gives one date - 1919

Slowly approaching the one hundred year mark makes it old
and since we don't know how long they were in business (1 year?) I'm going with obscure.
So, old and obscure.

A very solid and well built knife with composition handles that have shrunk slightly a long time ago.

Thanks for looking.
AA Fisher contracted Imperial for their ticklers. This is of course prior to Imperial going with those new-fangled shell handled beauties every person with a fishing pool, a hook, and a dream owned at some point back in the day. The early Imperial Ticklers were well made, light gauge folders--maybe not up to par with the single blade Case Tested --1095s--but pretty dang close. Imperial also made contract knives for other more or less obscure companies which I shall post later. Thanks for Sharing!!!!

Top to bottom: AA Fisher Jigged bone Tickler; Three AA Fisher Ticklers on left Two Imperial Ticklers on right; close up of Tang Stamps.
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Thanks Robo,
Great knives and great information and great pictures. ::tu::
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New here and to collecting, picked up this old guy Powell River Sales Co but the makers mark is partially worn. All I can read is the last ???ACE Co Made In USA, does anyone know this maker?

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Picked up this St Lawrence Cutlery Jack made in Germany, 1886 to 1916, still a very nice knife, faint etch still visible but not enough to read, also an inked number was applied at some point.
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I have this odd knife with a unusual stamp... Can not really identify this knife or stamp.... I thought I show it off here in this thread!
George Rome & Co.
Has beautiful orange bone scales and super well made!!
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More pics
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Eustace wrote:
FRJ wrote:This knife has no tang stamps. The only mention of the maker is stamped on the main blade. 3 1/2" closed.
Very cool!
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That's a cool picture...I need to read up on that!! Tnx for posting!!!
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Eustace wrote:
FRJ wrote:This knife has no tang stamps. The only mention of the maker is stamped on the main blade. 3 1/2" closed.
Very cool!
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Great knives on this page!

Mastiff, That is a neat old knife. How long is it? ------
mastiff wrote:More pics

Here's a nice little Royal, Mother of Pearl, Wharncliffe, whittler. 3 1/8" closed.
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That George Rome belongs in the "Big, Bad, Beautiful Bolsters Forum".

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Is "Friedrich von der Kohlen" a business that is making knives now in 2019 ?
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An interesting little knife that I thought might fit within this topic. Don't know alot of info on the marks. Took quite a bit of work to get it to a point where it was even slightly legible.
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Kamp Cutlery
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Nice honest old knives michaelspayth. ::tu::

The whittler is nice. ::tu::
Can you tell who made it. I cant.
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One of the marks on the whittler looks like Colquhoun & Cadman Sheffield. I have a ring turner marked the same. I believe they were a tool manufacturer in Sheffield.

Here's the link to mine, number 3.

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galvanic1882 wrote:One of the marks on the whittler looks like Colquhoun & Cadman Sheffield. I have a ring turner marked the same. I believe they were a tool manufacturer in Sheffield.

Here's the link to mine, number 3.

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That ring Turner is awesome!
Mine is "Colquhon & Cadman Sheffield" on the main blade
And what looks like "A. Cross Glasgow" on the second and third blade.
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Thanks, yes I saw that almost bid on it because I have the other!
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galvanic1882 wrote:Thanks, yes I saw that almost bid on it because I have the other!
I was able to find tons of great info on Colquhoun and Cadman company. Some very cool history. However, I can find any mention of that Glasgow stamp anywhere..
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*can't find any mention of that Glasgow stamp*
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