Old and Obscure Brands

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Nice one! Let me know if it's ever up for trade, or sale? I have a Canal Street right now if you'd like? Or other knives/razors.

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This is my oldest and obscurest. I posted it long ago but this is about the one year anniversary of it comin' to my house'. It's a Connecticut Cutlery Co. Naugatuck.
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That is one nice hawkbill from Conn Cut Co Berryb ::tu:: ::tu:: .... Blade is in pretty good shape despite kick being filed down, nice old stag handle with end cap and a different style pivot bolster for a hawkbill as well ::hmm:: ....
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FRJ wrote:I bought a couple of Doctors knives back in 2014.
Never owned a Dr. knife before and these two beauties show up on the same day.
It's nice to put them in here. I think they're old and obscure.
Thanks for looking.
Very sweet Union knife Works in a desirable pattern too FRJ. I have owned a few Union knife works but this is the 1st one in a Doctor pattern that I have seen,,,lovely knife Bro AND your killing me with that wood HOLLEY!!!

Thats one Sweet & Super Rare STAG Conn HAWK Berryb!!! Great showing
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Bridge Cutlery Co St. Louis......OPG to Collector Knives says 1915! One year..... :shock:
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TripleF wrote:Bridge Cutlery Co St. Louis......OPG to Collector Knives says 1915! One year..... :shock:
Nice one Scott;
I have a couple "Bridge Cutlery Co." folders. Have to dig em out and post em.
My books have it as a "Shapleigh Hdw. Co brand." c1902-1931
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Just picked this Crown Cutlery wharncliffe whittler up at a flea market. Tang is marked Crown Cutlery arched over New York with USA on the bottom line. Don't know much about it. A search indicated it may have been made by Queen. Utica has been mentioned too. Shield is in an odd spot, great bone and jigging, about 3 1/2 inches closed.
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The Crown knife is a mystery to me. ::shrug::

The pattern just seems odd, such a severe arc to it.

The jigging and dye of the bone seems out of place in a knife from a company that existed from 1900 to 1930.

The Wharnecliff master blade looks short to me.

And, as you stated, the shield is not located in a traditional spot.

I'm only well educated on a couple of brands and Crown is not one of them.

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The Crown knife may be old but the handles are modern replacements which explains the weird shield location. Notice how the angle on the liner cutout for the small pen blade is different than the angle on the bone.

I can't tell from the pictures. Are the nail pulls on both of the small blades facing the respective side handles?
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I'm sure the Wharncliffe didn't leave the factory that way, it been worked on and it is short. The swedge doesn't look quite uniform on each side. A decent job of re-purposing but not factory. Wayne, the nail pulls do face the thumb nick in each handle, pretty well centered too. Can't tell from my pictures but the mark side pivot pin sits proud to the handle, not a lot but too much to have left a factory that way. Neither of the secondary blades are marked.

Charlie, you mention a severe arc. Are you referring to the blade or the frame?
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Hard to find any reference to any of these. Pacific Hardware (Hdwe.) & Steel Co. San Francisco, CA

Reference books say 1901 - 1918

A little used up but I like it.
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"The words vintage and antique are vague. Actually most words are vague. Even the word vague is vague".


What a wonderful "vintage" knife. 8)
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philco wrote:"The words vintage and antique are vague. Actually most words are vague. Even the word vague is vague".


What a wonderful "vintage" knife. 8)
Aww. Comon now Phil. 1918 don't make it antique? :)
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Nice old knife RexS ::tu:: ... In addition to the Pacific Hdwe & Steel Co stamp, the Gunstock jacks are also no doubt more rare to find !! Pacific Hdwe & Steel Co being a retailer had their knives made by others - in Levines they note Napanoch as one and in Goins he also notes BB Knife Co which is of interest ::nod:: ...
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This pearl 4 blade Senator is marked on all blades: "C.E.B. Co./Dover, N.H." This is for Charles E. Brewster a "druggist" in Dover N.H. circa 1880's according to LG4. He does say importer or manufacturer etc. but safe to assume Mr. Brewster did not make knives. This one could be of USA or German manufacture.
Only one of this marking i have seen.
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Wabash Cutlery
Terre Haute IN
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Great thread ! As far as American automatics go this fits the topic. BOWIE KNIFE over NEWARK.NJ.
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W.R.B. Co.
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Very nice knives, David. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks fellas, the recently acquired WRB is thanks to treefarmer in a recent trade.
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Here's an old American Knife Co. Winsted, Ct.
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Nice Joe ::tu:: Here is a Curtin & Clark Cutlery Company 3.5 inch gunstock Jack with Ebony handles. CCC St. Joseph MO 1898-1909 (Goins pg 72). Lloyd
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That is a real beauty, Lloyd. A great stamp on the blade. ::tu::
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