Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Little Valley N.Y. 1886-1963

The Cattaraugus Cutlery Company was started by John Champlin and his son Tint in 1882. It was first incorporated under the name J.B.F. Champlin and Son as a wholesale distribution company based in Little Valley, New York. The business proved to be a successful endeavor, and it soon branched into a knife production company named Cattaraugus.
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gsmith7158 wrote:Here's one I have had for a while. Catt Ovalhole packing knife.
Nice looking knife Greg, I especially like the jigged bone handles! ::drool::

I have one with the black plastic handles :(
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RobesonsRme.com wrote:Dimitri, are the markings on the sheath WWII U.S. Navy?

Such as:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... l_1943.jpg

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Charlie I have no idea, never paid any attention to the marking on the sheath, you might be on to something there ::hmm:: ::tu::
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Thanks Dimitri! It is a vicious knife. Twas responsible for the near decapitation of my right hand ring finger. ::facepalm::
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Greg,

I just picked up a newer version with the rubber comp handle, same advert. Ovalhole Packing made valve and pump packing to seal valve stems, etc.
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gsmith7158 wrote:Twas responsible for the near decapitation of my right hand ring finger. ::facepalm::
:shock: :shock: :shock: ::uc::
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steve99f wrote:Greg,

I just picked up a newer version with the rubber comp handle, same advert. Ovalhole Packing made valve and pump packing to seal valve stems, etc.


Aha! I didn't find that in my search Steve. Thanks for the info. ::handshake::
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Here is the link. It's possible that the company intended the knife to be used on the job to cut their packing to size. As a snipe in the USN I packed a few steam valves to stop steam leakage. The company is the Hollow Center Packing Company Cleveland, OH.

https://books.google.com/books?id=X-lQA ... ng&f=false
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steve99f wrote:Here is the link. It's possible that the company intended the knife to be used on the job to cut their packing to size. As a snipe in the USN I packed a few steam valves to stop steam leakage. The company is the Hollow Center Packing Company Cleveland, OH.

https://books.google.com/books?id=X-lQA ... ng&f=false
Very interesting Steve! Thanks for the link. ::tu::
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Happy to do it Greg. I needed to it down to satisfy my curiosity on my knife. There are many of the comp or rubber handled Catts out there, yours is the first bone handled I've seen on the 'net.
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Steve, do you have a picture of your knife?
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Dimitri I do not. I'll see what can be done about that. Just got it in last week.
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Thanks, would like to see it ::tu::

Here's an old soldier, nice bones on this one :)
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Sorry about the cellphone pictures my camera battery decided it was time to quit. The blade has a little surface corrosion along the top edge but aside from that, I don't think it has been used or sharpened. The sheath is missing some stitching, the leather is still supple.

I know the add I linked to in a previous post was dated in the 20's, I'm thinking this knife is a later knife but does anyone know?
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Found my first Cattaraugus, and a copy of Levine's 2nd edition at flea market on Saturday. No numbers visible, but I believe it to be a 22579 model, 3 3/8".
Both the knife and book are well-worn, but with lots of use left in them. Both blades still have great snap and no wobble. Half-step on pen blade.
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Nice finds, Lan, and ::welcome:: to AAPK. ::tu::
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danno50 wrote:Nice finds, Lan, and ::welcome:: to AAPK. ::tu::
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Miller Bro's wrote:Here's an old soldier, nice bones on this one :)
Nice knife, such good lines on those. One of these days I hope to come across a good one for the right price ::nod::
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Thank you Paul :D

They turn up on occasion but in great condition they sell for quite a bit, if you're lucky you will find one for a great price! ::tu::
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Hey guys,

Your discussion about "Oval Hole Packing" prompted a little research. I have one of those rubber handled knives myself.

Turns out that the "packing" is for valve stems and steam rods in old locomotives. To prevent the packing from over swelling and
damaging the rod, they made the packing hollow to allow the swelling to move inwards.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Qp9AA ... ne&f=false

Here is an ad from a 1920 trade magazine.
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Here's the same ad in another 1920 trade journal.
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On a more aesthetic note, here is one of my favorite knives,...
The tang is stamped 3C inside a circle instead of the usual Cattaraugus stamp.
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I picked up this Cattaraugus sheath knife today in original sheath.

It seems to be a hunting/skinning knife, judging by the blade profile and the serrations along the top of the blade in the thumb area.

I'd be interested to know approximately when it was made and what model it is.

Thanks in advance for any input.
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Welcome to AAPK. I can't help you much with you knife except to confirm it is a hunting knife whose blade is a type used for skinning an animal. Your knife looks a lot like the one I just got made by Case. See attached. Someone will be along that can shed some light for on your knife. Cattaraugus did go out of business in 1963 so it was made before then.
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Thanks Steve for confirming that it's a skinning knife.

It's had a lot of use, so I think it is quite old.
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You are welcome. That sheath looks to be in very good condition and that Indian head is nice. It's possible that Kinfolks made your knife. Most manufacturer's contracted for some knives for various reasons. Case also contracted with Kinfolks as well for some hunting knives. Kinfolks was founded by members of the extended Case family, hence the name Kinfolks. Cattaraugus can also be thought of as part of that group as well in that a Case female married the founder of Cattaraugus and the 4 Case brothers were soon working there. All this history and interconnection is here in the forums to be read when you have a few spare months. :D
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