Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
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Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Hey Guys,,I concur with LongBlade also. The minor chipping on bottom liner on the cattle does resemble a more natural material not like celluloid which normally is noted for shrinking instead of chipping.
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Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Here are three HSB & Co. OVB folders. Top is a swell center or Coke bottle folding hunter (NYKC), left one is a dog leg tear drop Jack and on the right is a regular Jack OVB marked on primary mark side blade. Lloyd
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3 beauties Lloyd, great knives!
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Lloyd, you buried the lead in the other thread by holding back that coke bottle. Wow!
A trio of treasures right there, my friend.
A trio of treasures right there, my friend.
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Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Nice knives Lloyd and Mossdancer.
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Thanks John, Joe, Tony and Lyle for the nice remarks on my HSB knives--much appreciated!
Anyone have any idea what kind of wood the handles are made of on the smaller Jacks? Even a guess?
Thanks, Lloyd
Anyone have any idea what kind of wood the handles are made of on the smaller Jacks? Even a guess?
Thanks, Lloyd
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I suspect the swell-end jack is cocobolo.
I really can't tell on that cool little dogleg teardrop of yours, though. Due to color and certain characteristics I'd almost guess bubinga, but that's a scarce-to-rare wood for pocketknives AFAIK. Could just be oak with a little character, but I am surely no expert...
I really can't tell on that cool little dogleg teardrop of yours, though. Due to color and certain characteristics I'd almost guess bubinga, but that's a scarce-to-rare wood for pocketknives AFAIK. Could just be oak with a little character, but I am surely no expert...
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Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Here is a HSB English Jack; 4 3/8ths-inch; brown bone; filed German-silvery internal liner between pen and master blade; pins, shield, bolster and end cap.
What factory do you believe made it?
The knife is not in my cutlery section reprint of the 1933 HSB catalogue. I have very little reference material on HSB knives.
Except for the pen blade and shield it shares many similarities with No. K2683 in Shapleigh’s 1942 catalogue, section 21, page 73 (a Keen Cutter), making the knife possibly Winchester-made. This is admittedly a tenuously-based hypothesis.
One experienced knife maven looked at it and seemed pretty confident that it was Camillus-made. I do not recall why he believed that.
The number [110] on the pile side of the master blade is intriguing. Has anyone else seen three digit or lower numbers stamped like this on other HSB knives; or maybe even more importantly, on knives made by one of the brands of the known makers of Hibbard, Spence, Bartlett & Co. knives?
What factory do you believe made it?
The knife is not in my cutlery section reprint of the 1933 HSB catalogue. I have very little reference material on HSB knives.
Except for the pen blade and shield it shares many similarities with No. K2683 in Shapleigh’s 1942 catalogue, section 21, page 73 (a Keen Cutter), making the knife possibly Winchester-made. This is admittedly a tenuously-based hypothesis.
One experienced knife maven looked at it and seemed pretty confident that it was Camillus-made. I do not recall why he believed that.
The number [110] on the pile side of the master blade is intriguing. Has anyone else seen three digit or lower numbers stamped like this on other HSB knives; or maybe even more importantly, on knives made by one of the brands of the known makers of Hibbard, Spence, Bartlett & Co. knives?
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Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Whoops. Looking further in my notes I see that indeed I was told by the knife maven that Camillus did stamp three-digit numbers on it's blade tangs.
Do others agree?
Do others agree?
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I don't get many knives off ebay, this arrived last week. Faint blade etch " Fort Worth 1902 Cattle Raisers Association"
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Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Another Tulsa pickup,3 blade sowbelly stockman with OVB etch.
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Thought I would share my old OVB Box.
Measured 4-¼" wide X 2-¾" deep and 1-¼" tall.
No indication of what pattern it held but on the end of the box in pencil it is marked 657.
Cost is marked 1.75
Measured 4-¼" wide X 2-¾" deep and 1-¼" tall.
No indication of what pattern it held but on the end of the box in pencil it is marked 657.
Cost is marked 1.75
It's always important to know what you don't know.
Dan
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"Art Nouveau" is an International style of art, architecture and applied art, especially the decorative arts, that was most popular between 1890 and 1910.
A good example of this time period is on one of my wife's Art Nouveau hat pins, it has a 8-¼" pin shank, with an actual pearl. You will also observe that many knife companies got in on this very popular art form and produced some very interesting "Art Nouveau" knife handles.
I cannot give a exact date of my below pictured "Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett" Knife, other than between 1890-1910, during the Art Nouveau craze.
Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co. 1855-c1960 has a vast history of knife manufacturer/contributors:
"O.V.B., True Value by New York Knife, Ulster, Camillus, Utica, etc. Became True Value Co." maybe I have missed others?
Knife measures 3-¼" closed. Both blades have "Half Stops" strong walk & talk. Both blades are marked "Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co."
My wife believes the handles are Gold. I will purchase a "Precious Metal Testing Kit" to confirm her beliefs.
It never tarnishes, dulls or looses its luster. However there are no Gold markings or symbols.
A good example of this time period is on one of my wife's Art Nouveau hat pins, it has a 8-¼" pin shank, with an actual pearl. You will also observe that many knife companies got in on this very popular art form and produced some very interesting "Art Nouveau" knife handles.
I cannot give a exact date of my below pictured "Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett" Knife, other than between 1890-1910, during the Art Nouveau craze.
Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co. 1855-c1960 has a vast history of knife manufacturer/contributors:
"O.V.B., True Value by New York Knife, Ulster, Camillus, Utica, etc. Became True Value Co." maybe I have missed others?
Knife measures 3-¼" closed. Both blades have "Half Stops" strong walk & talk. Both blades are marked "Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co."
My wife believes the handles are Gold. I will purchase a "Precious Metal Testing Kit" to confirm her beliefs.
It never tarnishes, dulls or looses its luster. However there are no Gold markings or symbols.
It's always important to know what you don't know.
Dan
Dan
Re: Old HIBBARD, SPENCER & BARTLET---OVB---Knives
Hear is a neat old Hibbard Spencer Bartlett pearl stockman.
The main clip blade is a little trail weary but it is still a substantial knife. 4 inches closed.
This is a premium stockman with sunken joints and nickel silver pins and liners which appear to have been worked to some degree.
Love that spey!
Thanks for looking.
The main clip blade is a little trail weary but it is still a substantial knife. 4 inches closed.
This is a premium stockman with sunken joints and nickel silver pins and liners which appear to have been worked to some degree.
Love that spey!
Thanks for looking.
Joe
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Very nice.
A pocket knife is still an intimate personal possession of the individual who carries it and consequently deserves the best of materials, finish and workmanship in its production. (Quoted from Boker's 1928 cutlery catalog).
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I picked up this OVB whittler in MOP at a fleamarket recently. It is not as nice as others shown here, it has been dropped twice as it is missing the piece shown on the front and another similar piece on the opposite end of the back. But for $5 I thought it would be a user. Beside the OVB, it is stamped Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett Co. This must be some subdivision of the whittler family when it has a nail file in place of the second pen blade?
"Sometimes even the blind chicken finds corn"
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Interesting and nice knife Joe ... I haven't seen many 4 blade stockman especially one with a manicure blade - The spey blade though no doubt sharpened looks just like a corn knife blade to me - maybe it is the sharpening ...
Nice addition of an OVB whittler Olde Cutler ... Nice user for sure....
Nice addition of an OVB whittler Olde Cutler ... Nice user for sure....
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Very nice old knife, Joe. I agree with Lee: I have never seen a stockman with a nail file manicure blade.
I like that whittler, Olde Cutler. I guess folks just were not supposed to drop a knife like that. I probably could not carry it for one day before I dropped it and broke the MOP.
I like that whittler, Olde Cutler. I guess folks just were not supposed to drop a knife like that. I probably could not carry it for one day before I dropped it and broke the MOP.
Mel
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I have another MOP pen that is also a shadow pattern and it has an almost identical chunk missing. If they ever were dropped on a hard surface, the MOP shadows would almost always break. It is a neat old knife though and I carry it occasionally.Dinadan wrote:Very nice old knife, Joe. I agree with Lee: I have never seen a stockman with a nail file manicure blade.
I like that whittler, Olde Cutler. I guess folks just were not supposed to drop a knife like that. I probably could not carry it for one day before I dropped it and broke the MOP.
"Sometimes even the blind chicken finds corn"
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Thanks for the comments, guys.
I agree, it seems odd to have a stockman knife with a manicure blade. ???
I agree, it seems odd to have a stockman knife with a manicure blade. ???
Joe
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Added this HSB Grand Daddy Barlow this week, close to unused with great bone.