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Old Folder wrote:It's always a dream come true to find a "Box full of knives", even better when that box contains the original knives.
I found these in the mid to late 80s.
That' the truth!!! What a find!!! ::woot:: ::tu:: I got all excited over just one Ulster I came across in its original cellophane wrapper. ::ds::
Would luv to hear the story about how you came about this find....
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Old Folder wrote:It's always a dream come true to find a "Box full of knives", even better when that box contains the original knives.
I found these in the mid to late 80s.
Equal End Pen knife, full brass liners, brass pins, no shield, no half-stops.
This Ulster box contains six (½ DZ Pocket Knives) All 6 are mint original 2173S pattern knives in original factory wrapped papers.

KINGSTON USA- c1915-1958 A trademark used by (D. Divine & Sons & Ulster)
ULSTER KNIFE CO ELLENVILLE N.Y. c1876-1941

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Dan that was a real find there, very nice!!! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Dan that was a real find there, very nice!!! ::tu:: ::tu::[/quote]

Thank you Bill ::nod::
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KAW wrote:
Old Folder wrote:It's always a dream come true to find a "Box full of knives", even better when that box contains the original knives.
I found these in the mid to late 80s.
That' the truth!!! What a find!!! ::woot:: ::tu:: I got all excited over just one Ulster I came across in its original cellophane wrapper. ::ds::
Would luv to hear the story about how you came about this find....
Thank you Ken.
For years I have been attending local "Toy and Advertising Shows" I am not a toy collector, but surprisingly I have been occasionally lucky to find knife related items at these shows. The shows are Nation wide and frequent. I believe there are more Toy Shows than Knife Shows.
If I were to buy the above Ulster Knife Box full of original Kingston Knives at a knife show, the cost would have most likely been bigger than my wallet.
Unfortunately, I was not writing down how much I paid, nor documenting the dates for most knives or knife related items in my early years of collecting. But I most likely only paid a few dollars for the set. However, I do remember my face hurt the following day, recovering from the constant grin on my face resulting from my find.
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My contribution to this thread.....
She is not cleaned up yet but you can see...."KINGSTON.... USA" on the tang.
Blades are in pretty good shape.
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Meridian_Mike wrote:My contribution to this thread.....
She is not cleaned up yet but you can see...."KINGSTON.... USA" on the tang.
Blades are in pretty good shape.

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And when you get it cleaned up then it will look like this. Mine does not have "Kingston" stamped on it, only a double USA USA on the tang. I think it would have originally had "Kingston" etched on the blade, but that is long gone now.
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Scott sent a knife to me that has no tang stamp. He said he was told that it's a Kingston. ::shrug::
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And then I have a MIL-K USMC from WWII that has no maker mark on it that I was told is probably a Kingston. ::shrug::
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Jerry, pretty sure Scott is right. Here is one just like it, no tang stamp, but still has some blade etch.
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Those are some nice ones everyone.

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A Kingston I picked up Ebay
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Packlead3r, that looks to be in good shape! ::tu:: Welcome to AAPK! ::welcome::
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My newly acquired Kingston USA knife.
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I consider this knife both "RARE" and "ODD."
The main blade tang is dual stamped. Look at it with the blade pointed up, it
says SCHRADE over WALDEN over N.Y. U.S.A. Look at it with the blade pointed
down, it says KINGSTON over U.S.A. The pattern # (stamped) is 766.
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New_Windsor_NY wrote:My newly acquired Kingston USA knife.
That is a cool little knife right there. ::tu:: I collect those deer heads and found a Kingston version not too long ago myself. You can find that exact knife as an Ulster, Imperial, Kingston and Keen Kutter. In an old thread, Codger identified the Kingston version (called a K50D) as a Sears order c.1959-1960. It wouldn't surprise me to find a Primble or Craftsman version out there too. The knife is an Ulster 50D in its original incarnation and there are also stockman versions out there as well - the Ulster 55D. During the pattern's run Ulster migrated away from that style of clip and began using a turkish clip for those patterns (the 55D with a turkish clip and Old Timer covers is the 58OT) so that right there doubles the number of 'needed' knives for any collector whose after these deer heads - of course I may be the only one, lol. Here's a pic of the variations:
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Getting back on point with the topic, here are some more Kingstons. Aside from the little rope knives, these are all very common Ulster patterns:
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jxr1197 wrote:
New_Windsor_NY wrote:My newly acquired Kingston USA knife.
That is a cool little knife right there. ::tu:: I collect those deer heads and found a Kingston version not too long ago myself. You can find that exact knife as an Ulster, Imperial, Kingston and Keen Kutter. In an old thread, Codger identified the Kingston version (called a K50D) as a Sears order c.1959-1960. It wouldn't surprise me to find a Primble or Craftsman version out there too. The knife is an Ulster 50D in its original incarnation and there are also stockman versions out there as well - the Ulster 55D. During the pattern's run Ulster migrated away from that style of clip and began using a turkish clip for those patterns (the 55D with a turkish clip and Old Timer covers is the 58OT) so that right there doubles the number of 'needed' knives for any collector whose after these deer heads - of course I may be the only one, lol. Here's a pic of the variations:


Getting back on point with the topic, here are some more Kingstons. Aside from the little rope knives, these are all very common Ulster patterns:
Thank you for the information. If there's one thing I DON'T need right now, it's another style of knife with many "variations."
I'm currently in the process of hunting down and obtaining as many of the Camillus 72 variations as I can. So far so good, but I'm a loooooong way from being done. Now, if there is a Camillus 72 variation with the deer head out there somewhere, I HAVE to find it. ::tu:: ::handshake::
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jxr1197 wrote:
New_Windsor_NY wrote:My newly acquired Kingston USA knife.
That is a cool little knife right there. ::tu:: I collect those deer heads and found a Kingston version not too long ago myself. You can find that exact knife as an Ulster, Imperial, Kingston and Keen Kutter. In an old thread, Codger identified the Kingston version (called a K50D) as a Sears order c.1959-1960. It wouldn't surprise me to find a Primble or Craftsman version out there too. The knife is an Ulster 50D in its original incarnation and there are also stockman versions out there as well - the Ulster 55D. During the pattern's run Ulster migrated away from that style of clip and began using a turkish clip for those patterns (the 55D with a turkish clip and Old Timer covers is the 58OT) so that right there doubles the number of 'needed' knives for any collector whose after these deer heads - of course I may be the only one, lol. Here's a pic of the variations:
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Getting back on point with the topic, here are some more Kingstons. Aside from the little rope knives, these are all very common Ulster patterns:
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I know this is NOT a "KINGSTON" knife. I bought this Imperial "deer head" this morning (see last posts, previous page). The blades "should" clean up nice, hopefully. The pictures are the seller's.
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New_Windsor_NY wrote:I know this is NOT a "KINGSTON" knife. I bought this Imperial "deer head" this morning (see last posts, previous page). The blades "should" clean up nice, hopefully. The pictures are the seller's.
Nice pick. That knife works for me on a few levels. I do love the deer heads and I also collect wonda edges, so win-win with that knife! It's a different set up than the 50D. What you got there is the D-400ST (shell handle) from Imperial's Kameo Karved collection. The ST was for 'stagged.' That pattern was also available in faux buffalo horn (KP suffix) or imitation pearl (KP) which is the standard toilet seat fare. I'm a crazy person so of course I have 5 of 'em:
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A similar version was available as a serpentine jack called the S685ST but they went outside the box on this one using a steer head instead of a deer head:
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Imperial's love affair with heads extended to their fixed blades (H-50 & H-51):
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And even the occasional hatchet:
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For me the real fun is in finding the deer head knives that Imperial made down in old Mexico:
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This rabbit hole runs deep - lol.

Now getting back on the Kingston track, as far as I know the deer head you found is the only head pattern to cross over from Imperial to Kingston.
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jxr1197 wrote:
New_Windsor_NY wrote:I know this is NOT a "KINGSTON" knife. I bought this Imperial "deer head" this morning (see last posts, previous page). The blades "should" clean up nice, hopefully. The pictures are the seller's.
Nice pick. That knife works for me on a few levels. I do love the deer heads and I also collect wonda edges, so win-win with that knife! It's a different set up than the 50D. What you got there is the D-400ST (shell handle) from Imperial's Kameo Carved collection. The ST was for 'stagged.' That pattern was also available in faux buffalo horn (KP suffix) or imitation pearl (KP) which is the standard toilet seat fare. I'm a crazy person so of course I have 5 of 'em:
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A similar version was available as a jack called the S685ST but they went outside the box on this one using a steer head instead of a deer head:
685.jpg

Imperial's love affair with heads extended to their fixed blades:
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And even the occasional hatchet:
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For me the real fun is in finding the deer head knives that Imperial made down in old Mexico:
tresciervos.jpg

This rabbit hole runs deep - lol.

Now getting back on the Kingston track, as far as I know the deer head you found is the only head pattern to cross over from Imperial to Kingston.
VERY, VERY NICE COLLECTION!!! Thank you again for the information & education. As far as being crazy, it's all relative. ::tu::
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New_Windsor_NY wrote:VERY, VERY NICE COLLECTION!!! Thank you again for the information & education. As far as being crazy, it's all relative.
Thanks ::tu:: . I appreciate that - and always glad for the opportunity to talk about weird, old knives.
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jxr1197 wrote:
New_Windsor_NY wrote:VERY, VERY NICE COLLECTION!!! Thank you again for the information & education. As far as being crazy, it's all relative.
Thanks ::tu:: . I appreciate that - and always glad for the opportunity to talk about weird, old knives.
Hi Jason, I sent you a PM. The "deer head" topic is being continued here:
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There has not been a Kingston posted for a while, so I will show off my newly acquired Kingston all metal military pocket knife. There are no markings on the blades, only Kingston on the bail. These were post WWII issue?
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OC I have one exactly like yours lying here on my desk.
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doglegg wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:56 pm DSCN6918.JPGDSCN6914.JPGOC I have one exactly like yours lying here on my desk.
Do you know, were these issued about the time of the Korean War?
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OC and Floyd ::tu:: ::tu:: nice
Here’s one of my Kingston’s , the etch on the main is barely visible . Very well built piece
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OLDE CUTLER wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:13 pm There.....
That's a VERY good l👀king KINGSTON! ::tu:: ::tu::
Well done.


doglegg wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:56 pm OC.....
Another AWESOME MIL-K, Floyd! ::tu:: ::tu::


Ripster wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:23 pm OC.....

JP, that's a real BEAUTY! ::tu:: ::tu::
Those handles are easy on the eyes.
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